If you guys are looking for some help with
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-1249 I will ask around at work
to see who might have the interest and bandwidth.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Just to be clear I didn't simply describe what the HBase community is
> doing in this regard but also submitted those ideas for consideration here.
> I could make the same dismissive statement about your pointer to the Ignite
> lists.
>
>
> > On Sep 14, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > What Andrew describes is a good step forward CTR process and I am sure
> HBase
> > community will find a process that works for them the best. I still
> think CTR
> > and yet another step further. I believe if a person has commit-bit it is,
> > essentially, means that his judgement is trusted and he knows what's
> good to
> > the project and won't hurt the code intentionally. Mistakes will be
> happening
> > under either of the processes. But the trust in your community fellows
> goes
> > long way, I think.
> >
> > We had this discussion on Ignite dev@ list just about a month ago [1].
> And all
> > sorts of arguments were expressed there, and I'd encourage everyone to
> spend
> > a little bit of time reviewing it. The great points were made by Brane
> [2],
> > [3], and [4]. They aren't that long and esp. [3] is very deep, in my
> option.
> >
> > Considering that I really agree with what Brane and myself (doug ;) have
> said
> > on that thread I won't repeat myself here, but just ask to look at the
> last
> > three emails from below.
> >
> > BTW, Ignite is on the CTR process for about a month now - nothing morbid
> had
> > happened to it. And the rate of the development in this project is pretty
> > high, actually.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >  Cos
> >
> > [1]
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Jira-Process-tp1816p1822.html
> >
> > [2]
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Jira-Process-tp1816p1850.html
> > [3]
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Jira-Process-tp1816p1885.html
> > [4]
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Jira-Process-tp1816p1859.html
> >
> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 08:51AM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >> I made this argument over on the dev@hbase list: If the community
> considers
> >> quality a priority (and we do, right? (Smile)) then we should have a
> strong
> >> code review ethic whether technically bound to have one (RTC) or not
> (CTR).
> >>
> >> I started a discussion to move over to CTR on HBase because some
> components
> >> or niche concerns don't draw prompt reviews, slowing down the
> >> contributor/committer because their next steps depend on the current
> patch.
> >> We had this discussion on our dev@ list. You can find it in the public
> >> archives if curious. However I was mostly convinced we have sufficient
> tools
> >> without CTR so that's not necessary, eg: - Any committer can check
> anything
> >> into a dev branch (non release branch) without review; review comes
> later at
> >> the branch merge vote. Haven't checked if we have a branch merge
> policy. We
> >> can always add one.
> >> - Small fixes or test only changes are given leeway to the committer's
> >> discretion. Try to wait long enough if a volunteer wants to show up and
> do a
> >> review.  - We have an informal consensus practice where as long as the
> >> change doesn't have major impact (again, committer discretion) then
> after an
> >> issue sits a day or two one might post "going to commit this later today
> >> unless objection" - and, if no objection, this is a "lazy review" and
> >> commit.
> >>
> >> For your consideration.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:33 AM, RJ Nowling <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to derail this decision if CTR has general approval.  I
> would
> >>> be happy with a clear checklist document that we can all agree to
> follow
> >>> before commits.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 9:24 AM, jay vyas <[email protected]
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> i think we moved this discussion here
> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-1249
> >>>>
> >>>> The goal is definetely to get automated reviews.
> >>>>
> >>>> we hacked around successfully with some prototypes but never
> productionized
> >>>> them.
> >>>>
>

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