On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 01:05AM, Evans Ye wrote:
> Oh, if I made you uncomfortable,  you know I didn't mean that :)

Oh believe me - it takes a lot more than that to make me uncomfortable ;)
Besides, you gave me an opportunity to speak up about the SPOFs in the Hadoop
ecosystem. Which I can do for hours!

> I just want to know more about the design because I'm always interested in
> the architecture things, especially when I see something different.
> Even Spark just added HA in their master in recent release last year. So
> it's totally fine.
> 
> And the following is just  for the discussion:
> 
>> Just a side node: as you know literally _all_ components in Hadoop-based
>> stack have SPOF.
> 
> I think it's more related to the maturity of a component, but somehow it
> will get there to eliminate the SPOF just like what HDFS, YARN, Oozie, Spark
> did.  For operations, two SPOFs is good enough for them to have a good sleep
> at night ;)

It might be ok for Oozie, but not for a file system. Because once your master
has failed over to the standby you don't know how long that one has. It might
crash in 5 months or in 2 minutes. That's why if you're an admin for a
production critical cluster you'll get paged immediately. Perhaps 3 o'clock in
the morning.

I spent last three years working on the active-active software for mission
critical systems, so I would love to share some architectural thoughts with
you, if you're interested.

Cos

> 2016-01-26 12:08 GMT+08:00 Jay Vyas <[email protected]>:
> 
> > Awesome!  It's great to hear about another HDFS alternative :)
> >
> > , We tried pretty hard to make bigtop more "HCFS" compliant, by adding the
> > init hcfs tooling and so on, but never completed making the puppet recipes
> > add support for other file systems.
> >
> >
> > Would be very interesting to see if the quant cast team can take over on
> > the HCFS integration so that bigtop is a home for more Than just one under
> > filesystem .
> >
> > Let us know what your planning on working on, looking forward to it...!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 25, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Faraaz Sareshwala <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone in the Bigtop community!
> > >
> > > My name is Faraaz Sareshwala and I am an engineer working at Quantcast
> > to integrate QFS (https://quantcast.github.io/qfs) into the Bigtop
> > project. I just wanted to send a small note out to introduce myself to the
> > community and announce that we are working on an integration. Feel free to
> > reach out to me if you have any questions about QFS, our integration, or
> > Quantcast itself.
> > >
> > > At this point, I am nearly complete integrating QFS. I plan to submit a
> > patch through github and JIRA later in the week or early next week once I
> > get a chance to test everything is working correctly. I’ve read the wiki on
> > contribution to the project, but if you guys have any other tips or
> > guidance for me, I’d really appreciate that.
> > >
> > > Patch coming soon!
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > > Faraaz
> > >
> >

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