I follow the guide on readme.md for building from git. However I got no
luck. Does someone tried it recently?

Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]>於 2017年6月29日 週四,上午10:53寫道:

> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:53PM, Olaf Flebbe wrote:
> > Andrew,
> >
> > sorry to be sounding dismissive.
>
> For it worth - I don't think you were dismissive. But whatever...
>
> I actually agree with your point: tarballs could be easily derived from the
> packages. And if anyone needs them we can have a target in the build system
> (please submit the patch), but I would be really against having them as a
> part
> of the standard artifacts' set.
>
> > rpm can be converted to cpio payload. deb is an ar archive containing
> > data.tar,gz with the files as payload.
> >
> > Details can be looked up.
> >
> > Nevertheless, please do not call "tar" an "improvement" with respect to
> > deployment compared to "rpm" or "deb". I see the usecase to extract just
> the
> > content without all the dependency management, service management,
> > verification and so on. Please just use rpm2cpio or ar.
>
> +1
>
> Cos
>
> > > Am 21.06.2017 um 22:08 schrieb Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>:
> > >
> > >> you surely are making jokes when you are saying TAR is an improvement
> > > with respect to RPM/DEB.You surely know that you can unpack every RPM
> > > straight to the filesystem (DEB requires two steps), in case you'll
> like to.
> > >
> > > Not a joke and the condescension isn't helpful either.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Olaf Flebbe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Andrew,
> > >>
> > >> you surely are making jokes when you are saying TAR is an improvement
> with
> > >> respect to RPM/DEB.You surely know that you can unpack every RPM
> straight
> > >> to the filesystem (DEB requires two steps), in case you'll like to.
> > >>
> > >> You surely know that one can easily host a complete docker based
> hadoop
> > >> cluster on a developer machine in the current git of bigtop. And that
> > >> docker toolbox, docker engine, docker for mac integrates really well
> with
> > >> Windows, Linux and MacOSX, working right out of the box (at least on
> MacOSX
> > >> and Linux) as it is right now within bigtop without manually tweaking
> > >> config files.
> > >>
> > >> I see no point in reproducing hive, hbase, ... hadoop tests -- most of
> > >> them single machine, fake cluster environment  -- when we can have
> the real
> > >> thing, a cluster where we use docker for isolating nodes. When the
> tests do
> > >> not really work portable, that's a problem of other projects, not
> ours.
> > >> Let's fix it there.
> > >>
> > >> IMHO, if we could orchestrate k8s (kubernetes) (or docker-swarm, my
> > >> favorite) we could even chose to use a single host with some docker
> > >> instances or scale out to a cloud environment and have a reproducable
> > >> system without tweaking files. Of course there is much work to do to
> port
> > >> tests to the cloud environment, but these would be a tremendous value
> added.
> > >>
> > >> Olaf
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Am 20.06.2017 um 23:12 schrieb Andrew Purtell <
> [email protected]
> > >>> :
> > >>>
> > >>> Yeah, we can build from git repos. Instead of archive URL you can
> > >> specify for each component a repo and reference by git-URL and
> branch, tag,
> > >> or SHA.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regarding tarball build targets, I was thinking of it as a packaging
> > >> improvement, an additional packaging target. It could make integration
> > >> testing more convenient too if you are not using containers or bare
> metal
> > >> systems where you own the whole filesystem.
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 6:13 AM, Evans Ye <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Andy,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is it easier to have multiple tarballs to setup a cluster for
> > >> integration
> > >>>> tests?
> > >>>> I'm not on the Hadoop/HBase developer side so I have zero context.
> I was
> > >>>> just assuming that deploying a cluster for integration tests would
> be a
> > >>>> beneficial feature for them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bringing up my discussion with Hadoop and HBase guys at Cloudera,
> them
> > >>>> mentioned two things specifically for Bigtop:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> a). build from git (which I think you've contributed that in Bigtop
> > >> already)
> > >>>> b). easy to run integration test framework
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm happy to have b). because either way we need to have it in our
> CI.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2017-06-19 5:04 GMT+08:00 Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> IMHO, the easiest and fastest way to get the distribution aspect
> to be
> > >> more
> > >>>>> useful to more folks is to add a build target that generates plain
> > >> tarballs
> > >>>>> instead of distro-specific Linux packaging. People like us can
> take the
> > >>>>> tarballs and unpack them to environments where for various reasons
> we
> > >> don't
> > >>>>> want to do RPM management. Vendors like Cloudera can convert
> tarballs
> > >> to
> > >>>>> parcels, or whatever proprietary format is desired.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Evans Ye <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi folks,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Many things happened during DataWorks Summit San Jose 2017. Some
> of
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> folks(Cos, Roman, Amir, Nate, Mike, etc) gathered together to
> discuss
> > >>>>> 1.2.1
> > >>>>>> and the future 1.3 release of Bigtop. I'd like to get back those
> > >>>>>> discussions to the mailing list so that who can't make it there
> can
> > >> still
> > >>>>>> be with us for further discussions:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * 1.2.1 release
> > >>>>>> a). Some of the folks expecting Docker on YARN to be back ported
> to
> > >> 2.7.4
> > >>>>>> and included in the release
> > >>>>>> b). Get rotted code out of our code base: packaging, deployment,
> > >> testing,
> > >>>>>> etc
> > >>>>>> c). Get integration test to work in CI
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * 1.3.0 release
> > >>>>>> a). More machine learning integrations
> > >>>>>> b). K8S integration will be an interesting topic
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please help me to complete the list if I miss something. :)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> OTOH, for me specifically, I visited Cloudera for doing a tech
> talk. I
> > >>>>> meet
> > >>>>>> Sean Mackrory and there Hadoop and HBase lead. The pain point
> they're
> > >>>>>> having for a long time is not having an integration test
> framework for
> > >>>>>> there work on the bleeding edge. For example, whether a specific
> patch
> > >>>>> from
> > >>>>>> Hadoop breaks HBase or Hive?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> My thinking towards this is this is what Bigtop tries to solve at
> the
> > >>>>> very
> > >>>>>> beginning. We supposed to have folks from multiple projects to
> work
> > >> with
> > >>>>> us
> > >>>>>> to upgrade  packages, and use our frameworks to properly
> integrate,
> > >> test
> > >>>>>> their code with other components.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So, the future of Bigtop. I think tightly work with the other
> > >> communities
> > >>>>>> is a better way we move forward. But, that means something need
> to be
> > >>>>>> changed. For example, our distribution is somehow, from developers
> > >>>>>> perspective, old. Which can not support the integration and
> testing on
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>> bleeding edge. If we still like to  release something suggested
> for
> > >>>>>> Production only, one of the solution is to have both dev and
> stable
> > >>>>>> releases in Bigtop, so developers can work on the dev branch and
> test
> > >>>>>> against newest components. In that case, people from other
> communities
> > >>>>>> might be possible to help us upgrade the package to the newer
> version,
> > >>>>>> which makes things easier.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> What do you guys think? Please join me for the discussion.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> - Andy
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If you are given a choice, you believe you have acted freely. -
> Raymond
> > >>>>> Teller (via Peter Watts)
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> > > decrepit hands
> > >   - A23, Crosstalk
> >
>
>
>

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