I am 100% up to go container. We need to embrace the changes and right now
container seems to be a dominating solution.

Breaking down into a concrete plan, we got some choices:

1. Leverage docker provisiner to provision cluster on swarm using compose
2. Develop docker based packaging solution
2a. Reuse our RPM/DEB packages to create docker images
2b. Develop a brand new packaging solution for docker and drop puppet deploy

I would favor 2a.

Any other thoughts?



Olaf Flebbe <[email protected]>於 2017年12月17日 週日,上午1:57寫道:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> Regarding your comment on  *https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2754
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2754>*
>
> Well, pretty ugly story.  The thread leading to reverting zookeeper is
> here:
>
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2e9705ee7bdc8afb7b9e79683dda18b0079aec215079b608862c99b@%3Cdev.bigtop.apache.org%3E
>
> Included you will find the unresolved Hadoop JIRA tickets
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-12928
>
>  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-13413
>
>
> However, Jay flashed a proposal several times that we should "go
> container". I am now ready to see this necessary.
>
> I think the hadoop ecosystem should interoperate on stable network
> protocols, not by sharing Java artifacts.
>
> This would put the final nail in the coffin of the attempt harmonising
> protocols by symlinking client and server packages in order to enforce same
> versions of client and server. We would give up most of our inter-package
> dependencies, every package get its own dependency packaged, pulled from
> whatever the upstream project decided.
>
> This may solve issues like the zookeeper / hadoop interdependency .
> Supplying a zookeeper-3.11 server package would be not an issue any more.
> Packages needing zookeeper client would use their zookeeper client to
> access the server. And than think "Hadoop-3" as a further example.
>
> For dependencies with native libraries this may lead to issues, which can
> be solved IMHO.
>
> I am now out of the position to control a reasonable large hadoop bigtop
> infra, so I am not sure this path will lead to disaster area, since I
> cannot test the long time stability any more.
>
> Other Bigtoppers, please comment, since this will have pretty big impact .
>
> I like to see traditional Bigtop bare metal -- no containers -- supported
>  as well. At least as a corner case.
>
> Cheers
> Olaf
>
>
>
>
> Am 16.12.2017 um 02:54 schrieb Jeff Widman (JIRA) <[email protected]>:
>
>
>    [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2754?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16293553#comment-16293553
> ]
>
> Jeff Widman commented on BIGTOP-2754:
> -------------------------------------
>
> Is there a ticket in Hadoop tracking this?
>
> Zookeeper 3.4.6-->3.4.9 have a couple of bugs affecting snapshot garbage
> collection (ZOOKEEPER-1797 and ZOOKEEPER-2574), so we want to upgrade to
> 3.4.11.
>
> However, when I tried pulling that from Zookeeper repo, I noticed that it
> pins Java 6 which breaks on Ubuntu 16.04:
> https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/blob/release-3.4.6/src/packages/update-zookeeper-env.sh#L152
>
> I looked at the Zookeeper master branch, and looks like Zookeeper decided
> in ZOOKEEPER-1604 to delegate packaging to the Bigtop project. However,
> when I came here, I was disappointed to see that the newest Zookeeper
> version that Bigtop packages is 3.4.6....
>
> For those of us who use Zookeeper apart from Hadoop but don't want to deal
> with the headaches of packaging it'd be nice to figure out a way to get a
> newer zookeeper package released. I'm happy to take a look at the Hadoop
> project to see if they can upgrade to 3.4.11, but not sure where to find
> their rationale for pinning to 3.4.6...
>
> Revert BIGTOP-2730: Upgrade Zookeeper to version 3.4.10
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                Key: BIGTOP-2754
>                URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2754
>            Project: Bigtop
>         Issue Type: Bug
>   Affects Versions: 1.2.0
>           Reporter: Olaf Flebbe
>           Assignee: Olaf Flebbe
>            Fix For: 1.2.1, 1.3.0
>
>        Attachments: BIGTOP-2754.patch
>
>
> Since Hadoop enforces zookeeper-3.6 we will revert  BIGTOP-2730  in order
> to wait for upstream to deal with this issue.
>
>
>
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