Hi Roman,

Now we know 2 ways to bring back Ambari:
1、We can find 3 former Ambari PMCs, and Apache community will discuss restart 
from TLP.
2、We can draft a proposal with 1 champion, 3 mentors and start a vote to 
discuss restart from incubator.

If I understand correctly, you now provide a third way:
We just need 3 Apache Members and this can easily restart from TLP(or 
Incubator)?
Is there anything else we need to do?

Best Regards,
Zhiguo Wu

> On Jun 7, 2022, at 16:58, Roman Shaposhnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 7:52 PM 吴治国 <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Of course.
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Here are the details I share with Kengo, Brahma and Michiel:
>> 
>> Let me explain why we want to restart Ambari's community and the current 
>> status of re-incubation.
>> 
>> Since Ambari still has large demands, the retirement makes lots of companies 
>> looking for a replacement.
>> My team also needs to manage some new bigdata components that Ambari doesn't 
>> provide, But the only choice is to redevelop a fork version of it, And we 
>> have the idea to upload it to github, start a new community.
>> But compare to maintain the Ambari's original community, start a new one 
>> based on fork version has some disadvantages.
>> First, we can no longer use the name "Ambari", which will make it difficult 
>> for original users to find it. It can also lead to insufficient attraction 
>> of new developers.
>> Next, that name change also causes inconvenience for end users and other 
>> projects leveraging Ambari, e.g., Bigtop. They have to change their 
>> operational procedures, scripts, users guide, and so on.
>> Lastly, we have to rebuild the development infrastructure and workflows 
>> etc., but it's time-consuming and meaningless because Ambari has already 
>> done it.
>> So we hope we can help restart Ambari's community again.
>> 
>> And if Ambari can be successfully re-incubated, I think there should be 
>> in-depth collaboration with bigtop community in the future.
>> 
>> Currently, the proposal has a draft version, and we now have 1 champion, 2 
>> mentors, and some initial committers(Sorry I cannot share the details here).
> 
> Honestly, I think we can do it in a much simpler way if we manage to
> find at least 3 ASF Members who are willing to oversee the initial PMC
> and make sure that the community actually re-coalesces.
> 
> Between myself (I'm definitely interested) and perhaps Cos (CCed)
> would only need one more ASF member to try a direct route.
> 
> Anybody else interested in helping?
> 
> Thanks,
> Roman.

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