Thanks for the feedback.

I decided on an `EntityInitializer` instead, because it also adds enrichers
of its own. The pull request has been updated with this change now. To use
it, add YAML like the following:

```
services:
  - type: org.apache.brooklyn.entity.software.base.EmptySoftwareProcess
    brooklyn.initializers:
      - type: org.apache.brooklyn.entity.machine.AddMachineMetrics
```

Cheers,
Andrew.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 at 11:53 Geoff Macartney <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with Sam and Svet, + 1 to making it an enricher, if possible, or
> at least somehow keeping it separate from SoftwareProcess.
>
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> On 16 Jun 2016, at 10:41, Sam Corbett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I share your concern that the placement of the feed is wrong. I feel like
> we would be bending Brooklyn's abstractions to fit the case rather than
> working out a better abstraction. Of course, deciding what data reflects a
> software process is subjective and as you point out we already break the
> encapsulation in a variety of places. Was the plan not always to make
> locations into entities too? This would be trivial if that were the case.
>
> I also think we're continually making SoftwareProcess too important.
> Svet's suggestion of an enricher is a good one - I want to explicitly mix
> the capability in to entities, not enable it with a flag.
>
> Sam
>
>
> On 16/06/2016 09:13, Andrew Kennedy wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> For the project I am working on, we would like to use the CPU utilization
> as one of the metrics for scaling a cluster. The existing `MachineEntity`
> has a sensor feed that produces this data, along with uptime and memory
> usage information. The feed works on Linux VMs only, currently, as is uses
> SSH commands on the host to generate the values i.e. the `uptime` command,
> or the contents of files in `/proc/`.
>
> I would like to propose moving the feed to `SoftwareProcess` so that it is
> available to all entities. It would be disabled normally, set by a
> `ConfigKey<Boolean>` flag. This would be named "metrics.machine.retrieve"
> to correspond to "metrics.usage.retrieve" which enables sensors in feeds
> that return application or process specific information. The
> `MachineEntity` would obviously have the default value set to "true", to
> maintain current behaviour.
>
> The only issue with this change is that the placement of the sensor feed
> feels slightly wrong. These are returning data about the _machine_ but the
> entity represents a _process_ on that machine, and there may in fact be
> multiple entities sharing a single machine, via `SameServerEntity`. The
> `MachineEntity` is used to represent a VM without any applications running
> on it, and would not normally be part of a blueprint, so these sensors are
> not normally accessible. There is some precedent for placing machine data
> on an entity, such as the `HOSTNAME` sensor, so I think the break in
> encapsulation is quite small.
>
> The PR containing the change is here:
>
> - https://github.com/apache/brooklyn-server/pull/204
>
> I'd appreciate any comments on whether this is a useful change, as well as
> a review of the pull request...
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew.
>
>
>
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Andrew Kennedy ; Founder clocker.io project ; @grkvlt ; Cloudsoft

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