Hi all,
Aled, I used the Balsamiq tool and reconstructed the mockups i sent earier and made some changes on the "applications" view. It's just an rough mockup to know if this is what you had in mind for the "drag & drop graph" https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38051787/ApacheBrooklyn-Editor.pdf Similar to what Adrian Nieto proposed. Adrián Nieto, as Aled said earier in the email, i think is better to do first some basic mockups for the editor and after everyone is happy with the result i can do a more "realistic" mockup. Let me know your thoughts, Raul C. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Aled Sage <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I've put together some draft use-cases for the blueprint designer. > Feedback extremely welcome: > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A1oaIbGPDXgJsum0QnE9gmYfLwRotEOTPnoi3zqXTD8/edit?usp=sharing > > Aled > > > > On 14/07/2015 14:29, Aled Sage wrote: > >> Hi Adrian, >> >> I agree it's on the right track, with drag-and-drop of services >> (analogous to existing entities/blueprints), and settings on each of those >> services (analogous to config options). >> >> An important difference from Microsoft Robotics Studio is that we are >> mostly talking about a deployment configuration, whereas the robotics >> studio is a graphical programming language. Therefore, the analogy will >> break down so we have to be careful about what ideas we take from that. >> >> --- >> Labels/layers sounds sensible. >> >> We should also write up some use-cases. I volunteer to make a start on >> that. >> >> --- >> In terms of mockups, I love wire frames and tools like Balsamiq [1]. It >> allows for extremely fast iterations, fast feedback, and avoids >> (time/emotional) investment in more "realistic" mockups. I suggest we all >> agree that any mockup code is throw-away. If it's not, then we're at risk >> of spending too much time on a single phase of the mockup, rather than >> getting our ideas out there for fast feedback. >> >> Aled >> >> [1] https://balsamiq.com/products/mockups/ >> >> On 14/07/2015 14:14, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >> >>> Hi Adrian, >>> >>> This looks very interesting to me. Complex approach or not, I believe >>> this is what is needed and you're on the right track. >>> >>> I spent quite a bit of time thinking about this problem. My intuition >>> tells me now that we need to introduce some metadata like labels and layers >>> to handle complexity. However, I don't have a concrete proposal at this >>> point and I am not sure how productive it would be to just throw ideas. >>> >>> Best, >>> Hadrian >>> >>> >>> On 07/14/2015 07:22 AM, Adrián Nieto wrote: >>> >>>> What do you think about trying to mockup something based directly on >>>> material design? >>>> >>>> About how it the App designer should work I would suggest something like >>>> Microsoft Robotics Studio[1] but maybe this is a very complex approach. >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> >>>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_w8zmcBHHhdk/TD9ewicbGdI/AAAAAAAAB6o/8nEsQNzw8eI/s1600/UltrasonicExplorer.png >>>> >>>> El 14/07/2015 a las 11:47, Raul Canta escribió: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I've looked over Adrian Nieto post and it looks that we had the same >>>>> idea >>>>> using AngularJS and Material Design https://material.angularjs.org >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it's about the drag and drop which Thomas Bouron proposed. I >>>>> tried to >>>>> do a first design based on the mokcup Thomas did. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38051787/ApacheBrooklyn-Editor-Application.jpg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38051787/ApacheBrooklyn-Editor-YAML.jpg >>>>> >>>>> I would like to get some feedback on the mokcups i did. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Raul C. >>>>> >>>>> P.S. For the mockups I used the design guideline of the Apache Brooklyn >>>>> look-and-feel >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Adrián Nieto Pérez < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My idea was to start the project during August, but I already did some >>>>>> work on the landing view. For the server log it would be nice to have >>>>>> an >>>>>> API call to retrieve the console output, or at least the last message. >>>>>> Currently i’m working on the applications view. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El 14/7/2015, a las 4:32, Hadrian Zbarcea <[email protected]> >>>>>> escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Raul, >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you please share some wireframes or screenshots of what you are >>>>>> working on? >>>>>> >>>>>> The second link Aled posted is an interesting one for me (and I am >>>>>> not a >>>>>> UI expert by any measure). It looks like Adrian Nieto is working on >>>>>> some >>>>>> changes of the UI. The initial thread he started died off >>>>>> unfortunately. >>>>>> >>>>>> I cc'ed Adrian explicitly in the hope that he could share more about >>>>>> his >>>>>> plans. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Hadrian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 07/13/2015 06:09 PM, aled sage wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Raul, excellent! >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you elaborate for the mailing list what area of the Brooklyn GUI >>>>>> you >>>>>> are working on? From other comms, I presume it is the drag and drop >>>>>> editor >>>>>> which Thomas proposed on the list previously [1]. >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of guidelines, are you thinking of look-and-feel or coding >>>>>> standards? >>>>>> >>>>>> For look-and-feel, I'd go for community feedback: propose some >>>>>> wire-frame >>>>>> diagrams / mockups early to get feedback, iterate on those until we >>>>>> have >>>>>> sufficient consensus, and then implement! >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Another discussion about the Brooklyn GUI is the e-mail thread "A >>>>>> proposal >>>>>> of a new Apache Brooklyn GUI" [2]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Aled >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-brooklyn-dev/201506.mbox/%3CCAH20XTZPdcfXBam9WcGD_%3DWbWnuzMKeTOVoK3vkiXgvEBJ5zpw%40mail.gmail.com%3E >>>>>> [2] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-brooklyn-dev/201507.mbox/%3CFEC0FF77-671B-455C-A29E-6ABF6E4028D3%40lcc.uma.es%3E >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Raul Canta <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am working on some improvements to the Brooklyn gui. Where can I >>>>>> find >>>>>> some guidelines? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Raul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
