Hi Tristan,

Thanks for getting back.

I fully expected some fireworks on this thread, as versioning debates
can do that very easily :)

> > I have recently created this issue [0] to describe this problem. I'd suggest
> > having a read through that issue to get some background on this issue. The 
> > gist
> > of it is that BuildStream complains at runtime (not build time) that it 
> > doesn't
> > have any tags.
>
> Sounds like this is a problem worth correcting at build time indeed.

Glad that we agree on this part. I'll add it to my to-do list to move
this error to the right place.

> > Versioneer (also, its predecessor setuptools_scm) is really good at solving
> > that problem that it does, i.e. managing versions based on scm tags. I am 
> > not
> > disputing that. I am saying that this is not a problem we need to have.
>
> Except that "managing versions based on scm tags" is not the key,
> important problem which versioneer solves (although it is helpful in
> this automation, this automation is *not* the main reason we are using
> it).

Thanks for clarifying this.

> BuildStream takes build provenance tracing very seriously, as is
> demonstrated by the verbose summarizing of cache keys in the master
> build log (which is the key trace of provenance when speaking of any
> binary artifact it produces, in addition to the individual build logs
> of each binary artifact being produced).
>
> Since there is a significantly non-zero possibility that a copy of
> BuildStream that is not *exactly* a release version is used in
> production, and for this reason it is of extremely high importance that
> the copy of BuildStream I currently have on my machine says:
>
>     BuildStream 1.93.4+145.g4a8746161
>
> And not:
>
>     BuildStream 1.93.4
>
> This is highly valuable information about what precise version of
> BuildStream produced an artifact, information which cannot be captured
> better in a later build, since the build has already occurred and has
> potentially been deployed.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And I can see the value in that.

And, while I may not necessarily agree that this is a better
versioning strategy, I can appreciate its benefits and won't push this
issue any further.

Thanks,
Chandan

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