Providing a Configuration<?> impl bval will get all it needs to
execute. For executable stuff there is a property you can add but not
sure it will be needed for you.
Romain Manni-Bucau
Twitter: @rmannibucau
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2014-03-20 15:22 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher <michael.blyak...@gmail.com>:
> Romain - I don't quite understand what you mean by using
> ConfigurationImpl.java is enough. I'm not finding that I can do what I
> described with it. Can you elaborate on what you mean?
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Guys it is not needed normally and using
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/bval/branches/bval-11/bval-jsr/src/main/java/org/apache/bval/jsr/ConfigurationImpl.javais
>> enough
>> Le 19 mars 2014 23:47, "Matt Benson" <gudnabr...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> > No, but if you would file a JIRA issue it'd make us feel popular. ;)
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Matt
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Michael Blyakher
>> > <michael.blyak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Right after sending of my last email I started wondering this approach
>> of
>> > > picking off the mappings in ValidationConfigType and calling
>> > #addMapping()
>> > > would solve my problem and I'm pretty sure that it will. Glad we got to
>> > the
>> > > same solution!
>> > >
>> > > Is there something tracking this work already that I can follow?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Well, I haven't yet seen anything that tells me that it would be
>> > >> correct for a mapping found in WEB-INF/validation.xml to be resolved
>> > >> from the ServletContext as opposed to the classpath, but since in an
>> > >> EE server the BV impl (here BVal) would live "above" the application
>> > >> code there's a problem regardless in having BVal load the mapping
>> > >> resources, I think, because it won't have awareness of a given
>> > >> webapp's classloader.
>> > >>
>> > >> However, using Romain's approach of having the actual parsed JAXB
>> > >> ValidationConfigType object be passed to BVal would seem to take care
>> > >> of your issue: the EE server could use JAXB to produce this from
>> > >> WEB-INF/validation.xml, then pick off the mapping elements, provide
>> > >> the modified ValidationConfigType object to the BV bootstrapping, and
>> > >> call #addMapping() for the app-specific resource streams. How does
>> > >> that sound?
>> > >>
>> > >> Matt
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Michael Blyakher
>> > >> <michael.blyak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > From an application perspective I understand that regardless how the
>> > >> > ValidatorFactory is built there would never be a desire to ignore
>> > >> > mappings
>> > >> > files specified in validation.xml. The application already knows
>> what
>> > it
>> > >> > wants and therefor anything specified should be used from both ways
>> to
>> > >> > specify mappings.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > In an EE app server environment, the server needs to make the
>> > >> > Validator/ValidatorFactory for each module available through
>> injection
>> > >> > or
>> > >> > lookup. This means the app server is bootstrapping the
>> > ValidatorFactory
>> > >> > itself, using the module deployment descriptors (validation.xml) to
>> > >> > create
>> > >> > it before passing it back to the application. With this in mind, the
>> > app
>> > >> > server needs to be able to direct bval to specify that the location
>> of
>> > >> > validation.xml will be under WEB-INF for a web module (if it was
>> > >> > included
>> > >> > by the app developer). As we discussed earlier, bval doesn't handle
>> > >> > this.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Taking a step back to 1.0 this wasn't an issue, because as long as
>> the
>> > >> > EE
>> > >> > app server could handle parsing validation.xml since it knows
>> > where/how
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > find it and programatically bootstrap the Configuration, it could
>> then
>> > >> > call
>> > >> > ignoreXMLConfiguration and nothing would be lost. Now with 1.1, all
>> > CDI
>> > >> > integration bval does is lost if the EE app server follows this
>> > pattern.
>> > >> > Thus, to utilize the CDI integration piece, bval needs to create all
>> > of
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > configuration components, but that also means that it needs to parse
>> > >> > validation.xml (or have it be provided to it).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Now, if something (method TBD) was done to find
>> WEB-INF/validation.xml
>> > >> > by
>> > >> > bval, how then would it go about trying to find the mapping files?
>> > This
>> > >> > is
>> > >> > done the same way that validation.xml was looked for originally
>> before
>> > >> > this
>> > >> > workaround/solution, which gets us into the same situation where we
>> > >> > couldn't find WEB-INF/validation.xml if the mapping file is
>> > >> > WEB-INF/my-mapping.xml (I'm curious where the spec indicates that
>> this
>> > >> > location isn't compliant).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > So in short, it's not that I want to be able to ignore mappings
>> > >> > altogether.
>> > >> > I was just thinking that if WEB-INF is a valid location for the
>> > mapping
>> > >> > file to live, bval won't be able to find it either, so even if a
>> > >> > workaround
>> > >> > is provided for finding validation.xml, any mappings specified in
>> xml
>> > >> > will
>> > >> > not be found either. The idea of being able to programatically
>> specify
>> > >> > that
>> > >> > xml mappings should be ignored is so that the EE app server could
>> > >> > convert
>> > >> > them into InputStream's and then somehow indicate to bval that it
>> > >> > doesn't
>> > >> > need to do anything with the xml anymore.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Hopefully all of that rambling makes sense and clarifies the problem
>> > I'm
>> > >> > butting into :)
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> > <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> I think mapping in web-inf is not spec compliant
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> That said calling ignoreXmlConfig you can already do what you want
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Finally i think the spi or assimilated  is useless and using api +
>> > >> >> maybe
>> > >> >> few custom properties should be enough so i wouldnt add it before
>> it
>> > >> >> sould
>> > >> >> be mandatory. It generally breaks the framework which is not enough
>> > >> >> tested
>> > >> >> then.
>> > >> >> Le 19 mars 2014 22:04, "Michael Blyakher" <
>> > michael.blyak...@gmail.com>
>> > >> >> a
>> > >> >> écrit :
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > I'm prototyping the development efforts for pulling in the 1.1
>> > >> >> > implementation into an EE app server, so I need be able to press
>> > the
>> > >> >> right
>> > >> >> > buttons on bval so that it is able to handle both the mappings
>> > files
>> > >> >> > and
>> > >> >> > validation.xml. (I won't be able to control how an application
>> > >> >> > specifies
>> > >> >> > it's mappings, but I need to ensure that specifying them in xml
>> > under
>> > >> >> > WEB-INF works)
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > My concern was that I was going to run into the same issues
>> loading
>> > >> >> > the
>> > >> >> > mappings files as with validation.xml from WEB-INF unless the
>> > >> >> > proposed
>> > >> >> > change somehow provided a way to tell bval to skip using the
>> > mappings
>> > >> >> found
>> > >> >> > in the provided parsed validation.xml and only use those provided
>> > by
>> > >> >> > calling Configuration#addMapping(). Otherwise I would call
>> > >> >> > Configuration#addMapping(), but bval would still try to find the
>> > >> >> > mappings
>> > >> >> > resources itself and fail to do so. Does that make sense?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Matt Benson <
>> > gudnabr...@gmail.com>
>> > >> >> > wrote:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > > XML constraint mapping files are separate from xml validation
>> > >> >> > > config.
>> > >> >> > > So you either provide them via Configuration#addMapping() or in
>> > >> >> > > your
>> > >> >> > > validation.xml (or whatever you override with).
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > Matt
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Michael Blyakher
>> > >> >> > > <michael.blyak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> > > > So if I understand this latest proposal correctly, any
>> > >> >> > > > bootstrapper
>> > >> >> (EE
>> > >> >> > > > servers specifically) will be able to provide the parsed
>> > >> >> validation.xml
>> > >> >> > > > configuration to the ApacheValidatorConfiguration?
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > > If so, how will this work with the mappings config files? If
>> > for
>> > >> >> > example
>> > >> >> > > I
>> > >> >> > > > have my constraints defined in WEB-INF/my-mappings.xml, while
>> > >> >> > > bootstrapping
>> > >> >> > > > will I still be able to set the InputStream for that file
>> > without
>> > >> >> bval
>> > >> >> > > > trying to do it as well (and not finding this resource at
>> this
>> > >> >> > location)?
>> > >> >> > > > Previously this could be accomplished by specifying
>> > >> >> > > > Configuration.ignoreXMLConfiguration, but I don't quite see
>> how
>> > >> >> > > > that
>> > >> >> > > would
>> > >> >> > > > work in this case.
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > > Thanks,
>> > >> >> > > > Mike
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> > >> >> > > rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> > >> >> > > > wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >> Well if we can avoid to fork/branch tomee before next
>> release
>> > >> >> > > >> would
>> > >> >> be
>> > >> >> > > >> awesome but yes it sonds reasonable and avoiding jvm SPI is
>> > >> >> > > >> awesome
>> > >> >> > > >> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> > >> >> > > >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >> 2014-03-19 17:10 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson <
>> gudnabr...@gmail.com
>> > >:
>> > >> >> > > >> > Actually, come to think of it, we don't have to do it as a
>> > >> >> > "services"
>> > >> >> > > >> > SPI at all; we can just define the interface and have it
>> be
>> > a
>> > >> >> custom
>> > >> >> > > >> > config item for ApacheValidatorConfiguration. This makes
>> it
>> > >> >> > > >> > more
>> > >> >> > > >> > explicit and TomEE can just specify when
>> > >> >> > > >> > bootstrapping--hopefully,
>> > >> >> > > >> > anyway. We'll see if there are any gotchas and hopefully
>> we
>> > >> >> > > >> > can
>> > >> >> get
>> > >> >> > it
>> > >> >> > > >> > working in a TomEE branch or fork before we set it in
>> stone.
>> > >> >> > > >> > Okay?
>> > >> >> > > >> >
>> > >> >> > > >> > Matt
>> > >> >> > > >> >
>> > >> >> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Matt Benson <
>> > >> >> gudnabr...@gmail.com
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >> >> Well, in that case I don't see how we can really go wrong
>> > >> >> > > >> >> there.
>> > >> >> > I'll
>> > >> >> > > >> >> try to remember to do this as I'm hacking BVal in the
>> > coming
>> > >> >> weeks
>> > >> >> > > and
>> > >> >> > > >> >> maybe we can then see how it looks in TomEE.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >> Matt
>> > >> >> > > >> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> that's what I was thinking about but when I hacked 1.1
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> branch I
>> > >> >> > was
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> really thinking adding it when integrating tomee to
>> avoid
>> > a
>> > >> >> > useless
>> > >> >> > > or
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> wrong SPI.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> 2014-03-19 16:59 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson
>> > >> >> > > >> >>> <gudnabr...@gmail.com>:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>> So are you proposing the SPI look more like:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>> public interface DefaultValidationConfigProvider {
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>   org.apache.bval.jsr.xml.ValidationConfigType
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>> getDefaultValidationConfig();
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>> }
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>> ?
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>> Matt
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> Cause:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> 1) TomEE added some features relying on internal
>> config
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> (placeholders etc)
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> 2) TomEE uses its own model for all EE descriptors
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> whatever
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >> > > spec
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> is
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> That's not an issue on BVal side but it will need to
>> be
>> > >> >> > integrated
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> without forking as much as possible
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> 2014-03-19 16:52 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>> <gudnabr...@gmail.com
>> > >> >> >:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>> Why can't TomEE rely on BVal for parsing? We should
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>> devise
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>> something
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>> as simple as possible, whatever the case.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>> Matt
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> well this way we'll need another spi for TomEE which
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> can't
>> > >> >> > rely
>> > >> >> > > on
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> BVal for parsing. That's why I thought sending the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> parsing
>> > >> >> > > result
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> BTW any urgence on it?
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> 2014-03-19 16:43 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>> <mben...@apache.org
>> > >> >> >:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> I was thinking along the lines Michael says. e.g.:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> public interface
>> > DefaultValidationConfigurationProvider
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> {
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   InputStream getDefaultValidationConfiguration();
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> }
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> Then we use ServiceLoader (functional equivalent
>> for
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> BVal
>> > >> >> > 1.0,
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> Java 5)
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> to find any available implementations. If none
>> found,
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> we
>> > >> >> fall
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> back to:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> class
>> StandardDefaultValidationConfigurationProvider
>> > >> >> > implements
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> DefaultValidationConfigurationProvider {
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   final Properties properties;
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > StandardDefaultValidationConfigurationProvider(Properties
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> properties) {
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>     this.properties = properties;
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   }
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   public InputStream
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> getDefaultValidationConfiguration() {
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>     // look for property pointing to custom
>> resource,
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> else
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> META-INF/validation.xml
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>     // ensure only one such resource
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>     // return getResourceAsStream(resourceName)
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   }
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> }
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> This way TomEE would simply have to provide:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> WebApplicationDefaultValidationConfigurationProvider
>> > >> >> > implements
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> DefaultValidationConfigurationProvider {
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   public InputStream
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> getDefaultValidationConfiguration() {
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>     return
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > >
>> > getServletContext().getResourceAsStream("WEB-INF/validation.xml");
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   }
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   private static ServletContext
>> getServletContext() {
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>     // TBD
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>   }
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> }
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> Matt
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Romain
>> Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> Actually I'd expect the SPI to give the processed
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> instance
>> > >> >> > and
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> not the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> location. That's why i sugegsted to wait a bit for
>> > it
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> to
>> > >> >> see
>> > >> >> > > the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> real
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> need.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> 2014-03-19 16:10 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>> <michael.blyak...@gmail.com>:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> How would an SPI like this work? Would it allow
>> the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> EE
>> > >> >> > server
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> to specify
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> the location of the validation.xml (maybe in the
>> > form
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> of
>> > >> >> an
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> InputStream)?
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Romain
>> Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> tomee parses it itself and then create the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> configuration
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> itself. I
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> think we can wait tomee starts javaee7 to write
>> it
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> since
>> > >> >> > it
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> should be
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> very soon (when next release is done) and it
>> would
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >> > > main
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> more demanding user.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-18 19:42 GMT+01:00 Matt Benson <
>> > >> >> > mben...@apache.org
>> > >> >> > > >:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Michael
>> > Blyakher
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > <michael.blyak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi All,
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks for the quick replies, and apologies
>> for
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> not
>> > >> >> > being
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> more specific
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> - I
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> was quoting the EE 7 Platform spec as I am
>> > >> >> particularly
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> interested in
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> using
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> the bval 1.1 implementation that hasn't been
>> > >> >> officially
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> released yet.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> But from what I am hearing, it is the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> responsibility
>> > >> >> of
>> > >> >> > > an
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> EE server to
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> handle the WEB-INF case. I can see how this
>> is
>> > >> >> possible
>> > >> >> > > for
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> the 1.0
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> implementation, as the server can parse the
>> > >> >> > > validation.xml
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> itself and
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> bootstrap the configuration through the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> validation
>> > >> >> spec
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> API's. How would
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> this be done for the current 1.1
>> implementation
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> bval-1.1 branch
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> the repository? I don't see how the values
>> for
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "executable-validation"
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> element could be provided to the impl through
>> > the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> validation spec API's.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > Well, the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> >
>> http://bval.apache.org/mvnsite/bval-jsr303/apidocs/org/apache/bval/jsr303/ApacheValidatorConfiguration.Properties.html#VALIDATION_XML_PATH
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > property can be used to point to a different
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > resource
>> > >> >> on
>> > >> >> > > the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > classpath, but I can't find any mechanism that
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > could
>> > >> >> be
>> > >> >> > > used
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > to hook
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > up WEB-INF/validation.xml, and I can't find
>> how
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > TomEE
>> > >> >> > does
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > it, so
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > AFAICT you have indeed found what I consider a
>> > >> >> problem.
>> > >> >> > > Off
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > the top of
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > my head I think we could solve it by adding a
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > simple
>> > >> >> SPI
>> > >> >> > > to
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > discover
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > the default validation configuration resource.
>> > >> >> Thoughts?
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > Matt
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Michael
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Romain
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hi
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Bval only looks in META-INF but TomEE for
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> instance
>> > >> >> > (more
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> generally EE
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> servers) handles WEB-INF case.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> LinkedIn:
>> > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> 2014-03-18 17:50 GMT+01:00 Michael Blyakher
>> <
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> michael.blyak...@gmail.com>:
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Hi,
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Where is the validation.xml supposed to be
>> > for
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > a
>> > >> >> web
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > archive? The
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> bval
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > spec's only indicate the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > "META-INF/validation.xml"
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > location, but the
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> EE
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > platform spec indicates that for a web
>> > archive
>> > >> >> this
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > location must be
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > "WEB-INF/validation.xml".
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > EE.5.17 - "The name of the descriptor is
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > WEB-INF/validation.xml for
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> web
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > modules and META-INF/validation.xml for
>> all
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > other
>> > >> >> > > types
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > of modules."
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Given this, I don't see anywhere in the
>> bval
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > 1.0
>> > >> >> or
>> > >> >> > > 1.1
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > code that
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> handles
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > this. Am I missing something or does this
>> > >> >> > > implementation
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > not handle
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > case for web archives?
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Thanks,
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Michael
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

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