+1 to “Apache Avatica” with disclaimer "Apache Avatica is governed by the 
Apache Calcite PMC”.

If we are agreed, I think one of us should run this past branding. There might 
be a branding policy for sub-projects that we don’t know about. Maybe they’ll 
want us to do a name search. I’ll take that on if no one else would like to.

Julian


> On Apr 3, 2017, at 7:40 AM, Josh Elser <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Actually, my understanding is that "Apache Avatica" is OK/preferred. I've 
> similarly struggled on what name to use; it's probably a good time to just 
> bite the bullet and get some consensus :)
> 
> For those with the ability to read trademarks@, there is [1]
> 
> For those without, the gist of it can be understood from [2]. In our case 
> "Avatica" is a product name and that document should be read with "product 
> name" being interchangeable with "project name". In other words: "Apache 
> Avatica" is the proper name (even though no such TLP exists).
> 
> I think the full "disclaimer" (Apache Avatica is governed by the Apache 
> Calcite PMC etc, etc) would be good to display prominently on 
> calcite.a.o/avatica. Perhaps I can push something together today :)
> 
> [1] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/42596e452b1620202e03bb5735eea12afc383a07cf3a3779e5605992@%3Ctrademarks.apache.org%3E
>  
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/42596e452b1620202e03bb5735eea12afc383a07cf3a3779e5605992@%3Ctrademarks.apache.org%3E>
> [2] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming 
> <https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming>
> 
> Julian Hyde wrote:
>> (This is a discussion for the Calcite PMC, but I am using the dev list 
>> because there is no need for the conversation to be private.)
>> 
>> Avatica is currently just a library produced by the Apache Calcite project, 
>> not even formally a sub-project (some examples of sub-projects are Derby 
>> within Apache DB, and Solr within Lucene, but sub-projects are now 
>> discouraged).
>> 
>> So, I’m not sure whether it is appropriate to brand it “Apache Avatica” as I 
>> just saw on one site[1].
>> 
>> A reminder that it is our responsibility, as a PMC, to protect Apache's 
>> intellectual property by enforcing brands. We need to know what our brands 
>> are, then we need to reach out to people who are referencing our brands and 
>> make sure that they use them appropriately.
>> 
>> I am inclined to think that we should use “Avatica, a sub-project of Apache 
>> Calcite”. Or should we start pushing for “Apache Avatica”?
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> [1] 
>> https://github.com/knq/usql#database-support<https://github.com/knq/usql#database-support>
>>  
>> <https://github.com/knq/usql#database-support<https://github.com/knq/usql#database-support>>

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