I will certainly ask.

I noticed that most members are big vendors, but that might have to do with
a $2200 membership fee.

It would probably be good to have ASF represented more broadly by the
projects that use SQL as an API.

On Thursday, April 19, 2018, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do you think you could help bring a little more openness to the process?
> I’d love to know what areas are being considered, and what is the target
> date for the next standard.
>
> Even if the information flow is only one way, it would help counter some
> perceptions that the process is dominated by the large vendors.
>
> Julian
>
>
> > On Apr 19, 2018, at 1:21 PM, Edmon Begoli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I’ve actually joined the standard to be, in addition to representing my
> > lab, an advocate for Calcite and ASF, so I could represent these needs,
> and
> > bring anything else up.
> >
> > Just let me know.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Edmon
> >
> > On Thursday, April 19, 2018, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I’d love to know whether/when you guys intend to standardize streaming
> SQL.
> >>
> >> I have come to the conclusion that extensions to SQL’s existing temporal
> >> support (i.e. being able to join each row to a different temporal
> snapshot
> >> of a table) would be extremely useful to support streaming.
> >>
> >> Also, extensions to handle weakly typed relations (think of javascript
> and
> >> ruby’s type systems as opposed to java’s) would be welcome.
> >>
> >> And support for approximations, e.g.
> >>
> >>  select count(distinct x) approximate (within 1 percent) from t;
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Edmon Begoli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am on the SQL standards committee and I will ask.
> >>>
> >>> Are there any other things anyone would like to know?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:54 PM Michael Mior <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks for the review. I have most of these changes sorted out. Is
> there
> >>>> any good resource for the SQL standard aside from purchasing a copy of
> >> the
> >>>> standard itself. If not, do you think that this is something the ASF
> >> would
> >>>> be willing to do? Assuming it could be shared between projects, I
> think
> >>>> there are many who would benefit from this.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Michael Mior
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>> 2018-04-18 21:31 GMT-04:00 Julian Hyde <[email protected]>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> A couple of minor things. Your isJson function should return boolean
> >> not
> >>>>> Boolean, because the ISJSON function is strict - i.e. returns unknown
> >> if
> >>>>> and only if its input is null. If the input is null the code
> generator
> >>>> will
> >>>>> not call it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think SqlIsJsonFunction is probably not necessary. I think
> everything
> >>>>> about the function can be deduced by reflection. (That’s how the Geo
> >>>>> functions work, also.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’d add tests for JSON functions to SqlOperatorBaseTest rather than
> >>>>> creating CalciteJsonOperatorTest and JsonOperatorBaseTest. JSON
> >> functions
> >>>>> are not that different from the built-in function set. (The Geo
> >> functions
> >>>>> are not in the SQL standard; that’s why I separated them a bit.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Julian
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Apr 18, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Michael Mior <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Julian! I opened CALCITE-2266 to track implementing some of
> the
> >>>>> new
> >>>>>> JSON functions. I took a stab at implementing ISJSON in the
> following
> >>>>>> commit:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://github.com/michaelmior/calcite/commit/
> >>>>> d6930fcd04ed83d37f56a7795ee794
> >>>>>> 1b521fb99c
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> These are touching parts of the code base I'm unfamiliar with so I
> >>>> mostly
> >>>>>> don't know what I'm doing :) I added a new operator table which I'm
> >>>>>> guessing we probably don't want to do but it made it easier for me
> >> when
> >>>>>> testing to isolate the new code.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Michael Mior
> >>>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2018-04-18 17:00 GMT-04:00 Julian Hyde <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Somehow I missed it, but a new version of the SQL standard was
> >>>> released
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>> December 2016. Here is wikipedia’s description of the new features:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> SQL:2016 introduced 44 new optional features. 22 of them belong
> >>>>>>>> to the JSON functionality, ten more are related to polymorphic
> table
> >>>>>>>> functions. The additions to the standard include:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * JSON: Functions to create JSON documents, to access parts of
> >>>>>>>> JSON documents and to check whether a string contains valid
> >>>>>>>> JSON data
> >>>>>>>> * Row Pattern Recognition: Matching a sequence of rows against
> >>>>>>>> a regular expression pattern
> >>>>>>>> * Date and time formatting and parsing
> >>>>>>>> * LISTAGG: A function to transform values from a group of rows
> into
> >> a
> >>>>>>>> delimited string
> >>>>>>>> * Polymorphic table functions: table functions without predefined
> >>>>> return
> >>>>>>> type
> >>>>>>>> * New data type DECFLOAT
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nothing earth-shattering, but some good stuff there. DECFLOAT
> makes a
> >>>>> lot
> >>>>>>> of sense — businesses hate the kind of rounding errors that binary
> >>>>> floating
> >>>>>>> point introduces, and DECFLOAT would seem to map directly to java’s
> >>>>>>> BigDecimal.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And MATCH_RECOGNIZE, which we have already started work on.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Julian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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