Please review https://github.com/julianhyde/calcite/tree/2112-mvnw 
<https://github.com/julianhyde/calcite/tree/2112-mvnw>, and give it a try in 
your own sandbox.

I have built on the original patch. We no longer need to include a .jar or 
.java. And I’ve updated the documentation to use ‘./mvnw’ rather than ‘mvn’.

Julian


> On Aug 28, 2018, at 10:35 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Is it worthwhile to share the details of that situation with the community 
>> (or are the specifics you provided all that's really relevant)? Asking to 
>> better understand if there is some legitimate criticism of what Maven lets 
>> you do, or if it's something we can make better in Calcite itself.
> 
> This particular case was a consultant for my company for whom I was building 
> a custom version of Calcite. The consultant is technical and uses git all the 
> time, has a JVM installed on his machine (mainly for JRuby), but does not do 
> Java development, therefore does not have maven. 
> 
> Since his machine is macOS it was straightforward to do “brew install maven”. 
> (Which took about 20 minutes, because he first had to upgrade home-brew.)
> 
> Clearly it was not that hard for him to install maven, but if we used mvnw we 
> could remove even that friction.
> 
>> As long as we don't create a schism where some things can only be done by 
>> mvnw, I'm OK with this change.
> 
> I promise that won’t happen.
> 
> I believe that if you have mvn installed, mvnw will use it. Therefore most 
> developers will continue to use the same path, regardless of whether they 
> type “mvn” or “./mvnw”. I will continue to type “mvn”.
> 
> Julan

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