+1

if well used/tested svn commands for releasing are documented, committers
without experience on release or svn can still use those properly.


-Rui

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 3:09 PM Stamatis Zampetakis <[email protected]>
wrote:

> +1
>
> I always thought that committers had access to the dist repo and I was
> completely fine with it.
>
> Everybody makes mistakes no matter if it is a committer or PMC so I don't
> see a reason to have different read/write access to the repo.
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:17 AM sebbaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 2020/08/13 18:47:54, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Clearly committers should have read and write access to all non-private
> > information in a project. I don’t even think this needs a vote. If this
> > discussion quickly reaches consensus, as I assume it will, let’s just
> make
> > it so.
> > >
> > > The hypothetical risk that a committer would (accidentally or
> > deliberately) cause damage is a non-issue. In source control systems such
> > as SVN or Git, any change can be rolled back.
> >
> > Please note that the dist.apache.org release directory is very different
> > in this regard.
> >
> > If artifacts are published by moving them to the release directory, it is
> > *not* easily possible to revert publication
> >
> > This is because the release directory is used to distribute the files to
> > the world-wide mirror system.
> > And to the ASF archive system, which would require Infra assistance to
> > revert.
> >
> > Mistakes are not easily recovered.
> >
> > This is why the default is for PMC members only.
> >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Aug 13, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Andrei Sereda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > For the last two releases ([1] and [2]) committers were not able to
> > > > finalize the release due to SVN restrictions. One of the PMC members
> > had to
> > > > step in order to distribute the artifacts.
> > > >
> > > > By default, only PMCs are allowed to make changes to dist
> > > > <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/calcite/> SVN
> repository.
> > > >
> > > > This can be changed
> > > > <
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20681?focusedCommentId=17177075&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17177075
> > >.
> > > > According to INFA:
> > > >
> > > >> A link on this Jira to an email discussion where it is approved will
> > be
> > > > fine
> > > >
> > > > PMCs please vote on this proposal.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Andrei.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rbd84cf78ef250685a05fdb9c70708daa6558619093f510d27aabc1af%40%3Cdev.calcite.apache.org%3E
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ra180b94d785d5575558ab10d919521a6395fcce8899ed1dcda78d004%40%3Cdev.calcite.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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