+0 to remove them entirely, if that is possible.

-1 to keep in git but remove from source releases. We are already in
compliance with Apache policy, best I can tell.


On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 12:08 PM Haisheng Yuan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> +1 for removing them entirely.
>
> Thanks,
> Haisheng Yuan
>
> On 2021/06/02 13:36:05, Alessandro Solimando <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > +1 for removing them as well, all the mentioned sw versions in [5,6]
> > are extremely, extremely old.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alessandro
> >
> > On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 14:38, Michael Mior <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 for removing these entirely. I don't believe they are currently 
> > > necessary.
> > > --
> > > Michael Mior
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > > Le mer. 2 juin 2021 à 06:13, Stamatis Zampetakis <[email protected]> a 
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > In the recent votes for Calcite [1] and Avatica [2] there were some -1
> > > > votes regarding minified javascript files present in the source 
> > > > releases.
> > > >
> > > > The concerns are raised for the following files:
> > > > site/js/html5shiv.min.js
> > > > site/js/respond.min.js
> > > >
> > > > From discussions in other lists it seems that there are Apache source
> > > > releases including minified files so I don't think we are violating any
> > > > policy by including them but there are deferring opinions on this topic
> > > > [3,4].
> > > >
> > > > To avoid bringing back the discussion to if minified javascript should 
> > > > be
> > > > present or not I would like to propose one of the following 
> > > > alternatives:
> > > >
> > > > 1. It seems that both of the aforementioned scripts [5,6] are used for
> > > > compatibility reasons with old browsers. I think most of the people are 
> > > > not
> > > > using these browsers anymore so I would suggest removing them altogether
> > > > from the code.
> > > >
> > > > 2. If for some reason we need to keep them then we could directly use 
> > > > the
> > > > non minified version. The difference of minified vs unminified for both
> > > > files is ~6KB so I doubt it will have any real impact with the internet
> > > > connections that we use nowadays.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Stamatis
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r049cf5b953eb5824ba37df21094dd7c1e92146d659db4735ad121593%40%3Cdev.calcite.apache.org%3E
> > > > [2]
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r074720fc062bde09a7e69dc77f77754c7fd4c22f1357514f6b2196d0%40%3Cdev.calcite.apache.org%3E
> > > > [3]
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rcddc30dd1f0c7f20709e09de7202d4d6885d6235a7fce1c1ab46e4ed%40%3Clegal-discuss.apache.org%3E
> > > > [4]
> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201805.mbox/%[email protected]%3e
> > > > [5] https://github.com/scottjehl/Respond
> > > > [6] https://github.com/aFarkas/html5shiv
> >

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