An update on this, for those of you not following 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-5615. We agreed to move most of 
Mihai's code (except for the Calcite-specific code) into a new project, 
sql-logic-test. Today I made release 0.1 of that project, and published the 
artifacts to Maven Central.

Thanks to Mihai and Stamatis for their contributions. The announcement is on 
Twitter: https://twitter.com/julianhyde/status/1652409133180817408

The next step will be to rework 5615 to use the net.hydromatic:sql-logic-test 
library in Calcite's test suite.

Julian



On 2023/04/17 17:34:41 Julian Hyde wrote:
> I agree with Stamatis that this has a similar “shape” to Quidem. I’d be happy 
> to host the project under github.com/hydromatic. (If the maven group is 
> net.hydromatic I can publish artifacts to Maven Central and Calcite could 
> depend on those artifacts.)
> 
> Regarding the frequency of testing. If we add it to CI and (say) 5% of the 
> tests fail, I would find that demoralizing, even though passing 95% of the 
> tests is actually a great achievement. So I would only deploy it as part of 
> CI if there is a way to exclude failing tests.
> 
> If the SqlLogicTest tool were defined in another repo, then there could be a 
> Calcite module under plus [1] similar to TpchTest.
> 
> Julian
> 
> [1] https://github.com/apache/calcite/tree/main/plus 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Apr 17, 2023, at 1:58 AM, Stamatis Zampetakis <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hey Mihai,
> > 
> > Thanks for starting this discussion!
> > 
> > Let's focus on the first question for now:
> > 
> > Q1: Should the new slt module under PR-3145 [1] become part of Calcite
> > repo or get its own?
> > 
> > For those who have not followed the discussion under the CALCITE-5615
> > [2] let me try to summarize a few things as per my understanding;
> > Mihai can amend/correct things if necessary.
> > 
> > The new slt module resembles a port of sqllogictest utility [3] to
> > Java. It can parse and understand the test-script format used in
> > sqllogictest and can run this scripts over JDBC compliant databases.
> > It also accounts for extensions for Java engines without a JDBC
> > interface.
> > 
> > From my perspective, the code in [1] could perfectly stand on its own
> > in a separate repo; there are already ports of sqllogictest in other
> > languages such as Rust [4] and the latter appears to be quite popular.
> > The sqllocitest parser/runner presents some similarities with the
> > Quidem [5] executor that we are using for certain tests in Calcite.
> > The Quidem project has its own repo although we are making use of it
> > in Calcite.
> > If it becomes a separate repo then the test scripts could also become
> > part of the project making it more self-contained.
> > 
> > On the other hand, we already have a testkit module in Calcite so
> > bringing in new modules for testing purposes is relevant so why not
> > slt as well. If it becomes part of Calcite it can get more visibility
> > and facilitate maintenance since more people would be able to review
> > and merge changes (not only Mihai).
> > 
> > Since we are talking about a new module I would like to see some more
> > people share their opinion on the topic before I continue the review.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Stamatis
> > 
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/calcite/pull/3145
> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-5615
> > [3] https://www.sqlite.org/sqllogictest/doc/trunk/about.wiki
> > [4] https://github.com/risinglightdb/sqllogictest-rs
> > [5] https://github.com/julianhyde/quidem
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:31 AM Michael Mior <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Very cool! One approach could be to add set these tests to run periodically
> >> (daily/weekly) as opposed to being part of the CI pipeline. That way we
> >> still have a mechanism to keep tabs on bugs but the whole build isn't
> >> slow/broken until this is fixed.
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 15:20 Mihai Budiu <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hello all,
> >>> 
> >>> I have submitted a PR for Calcite with a standalone executable that runs
> >>> the Sql Logic Test suite of 7+ million tests from sqlite.
> >>> 
> >>> This is the JIRA case: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-5615
> >>> And this is the PR: https://github.com/apache/calcite/pull/3145
> >>> 
> >>> As Stamatis pointed out, the PR isn't really specific to Calcite, it is a
> >>> general framework in Java to run these tests on any JDBC compliant
> >>> executor. So a question is whether this belongs to the Calcite project, or
> >>> some place else. sqlite is a C project, I didn't see any Java in their
> >>> source tree.
> >>> 
> >>> Please note that SQLite is in the public domain, so their licensing terms
> >>> are not an obstacle to using the test scripts.
> >>> 
> >>> The submitted code runs Calcite in its default configuration, but the
> >>> intent is for other projects that build Calcite-based compilers to be able
> >>> to test them by subclassing the "TestExecutors". In our own project (
> >>> https://github.com/vmware/sql-to-dbsp-compiler) we have done exactly that,
> >>> and we are not using the JDBC API.
> >>> 
> >>> The testsuite does find bugs in Calcite, both crashes and incorrect
> >>> results. So I think it's usefulness is not debated.
> >>> 
> >>> The second question is about the packaging of this program; right now it
> >>> has a main() entry point and it prints the results to stderr for human
> >>> consumption and triage. It is not clear to me how it should be inserted in
> >>> a CI infrastructure, since running all 7 million tests could take a long
> >>> time. One possible extension would be to have the program generate a
> >>> regression test for Calcite for each bug it finds, but I haven't
> >>> implemented this feature yet (and many failures could be due to the same
> >>> bug). But even that mode would not naturally integrate in a CI
> >>> infrastructure.
> >>> 
> >>> A simple possibility is for me to just publish the code as an independent
> >>> project on github with an MIT license (the code is derived from our
> >>> MIT-licensed project) and just advertise it to the Calcite community.
> >>> 
> >>> I would very much appreciate guidance.
> >>> 
> >>> Mihai Budiu
> >>> 
> 
> 

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