I second Francis Chuang sentiment.  I have several PR that I have not
abandoned but no will review.  I also have had several bugs closed that are
still bugs.  But having a long list of PR that never gets reviewed and bugs
that no one is fixing, or reviewing the fixes is not productive.



On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 5:34 PM Michael Mior <michael.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> FWIW, I think we can resolve the languishing PR issue by adjusting the
> values of X and Y if they feel too small. I think there exists some
> timeframe after which we could all reasonably agree the creator of the pull
> request has abandoned it. Obviously we don't want this to happen, but if a
> PR isn't touched for a long enough period of time, the odds of it being
> merged approach zero.
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2024, 17:59 Francis Chuang <francischu...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I am also +0 on this one. Having a PR closed without any reviews can be
> > discouraging for contributors, but at the same time, a PR requires more
> > changes to merge as it languishes.
> >
> > On 23/08/2024 5:11 am, Julian Hyde wrote:
> > > +0
> > >
> > > I haven’t thought about the details, but it might improve our situation
> > regarding pull requests. It’s a small reversible step, so I would support
> > trying it. If it doesn’t help, we can change policy back again.
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Aug 22, 2024, at 10:59 AM, Ruben Q L <rube...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for opening the discussion, Michael.
> > >> +1 on the idea.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 6:43 PM Michael Mior <mm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> I know the better solution here is to have more people reviewing and
> > >>> merging PRs to keep momentum going. However, even when someone is
> > engaged
> > >>> in trying to help merge a PR, sometimes the original author will
> > disappear
> > >>> or changes become irrelevant over time. I think having a smaller
> > number of
> > >>> open PRs can help keep things more manageable. The goal is that
> > regardless
> > >>> of when the PR was opened, it should be kept open if there is still
> > >>> interest. But PRs which have been abandoned should be closed.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm suggesting implementing (via GitHub Actions, e.g.
> > >>> https://github.com/actions/stale) a process that will automatically
> > close
> > >>> PRs after some period of inactivity. This doesn't mean we lose any of
> > the
> > >>> work. We can also have PRs automatically be reopened if there are any
> > >>> future comments. The idea would be that after X number of days, a
> > comment
> > >>> is automatically posted and a label of "stale" is applied. Then
> after Y
> > >>> more days, the PR would be automatically closed. Any activity (more
> > commits
> > >>> on the branch or comments) will remove the stale label and reset the
> > clock.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd propose implementing this with X=30 and Y=90. This gives four
> > months
> > >>> for any activity to keep a PR alive. Again, if it is closed, no work
> is
> > >>> lost. But I think four months of no activity is a strong indicator
> that
> > >>> nothing is likely to move forward in the near future. I will note
> that
> > if
> > >>> this policy were already in place, it would mean ~85% of our current
> > open
> > >>> PRs would have been closed (if there was no intervention after the
> > initial
> > >>> ping).
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's some configuration data from a few projects which have
> > implemented
> > >>> this
> > >>>
> > >>> Apache Age, X=60, Y=14
> > >>> Apache Airflow, X=45, Y=5
> > >>> Apache Beam, X=60, Y=7
> > >>> Apache ECharts, X=730,Y=7
> > >>> Apache Iceberg, X=30, Y=7
> > >>> Apache Kafka, X=90, Y=-1 (never automatically close)
> > >>> Apache Solr, X=60, Y=-1
> > >>> Apache Spark, X=100,Y=0
> > >>> Apache Superset, X=60, Y=7
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Michael Mior
> > >>> mm...@apache.org
> > >>>
> > >
> >
> >
>

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