On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > Just to update the status that today I have implemented > > a) error handler will now schedule delayed redeliveries by default > which thus allows to not block while the delay occurs. You can disable > this behavior using the syncDelayed() option on the error handler / > onException / routePolicy. And if you use transactions it will use > synced delays to ensure the exchange will use the same thread again as > the Transaction Manager requires to execute in the same thread > context. >
Just a though. Do anyone think it would be best to keep the old behavior as default? To block while delaying when routing synchronous? For a single consumer thread this could cause it to be able to pickup new messages which might also fail and thus stack up messages on the delayed redelivery task queue? I think I will flip back the default so it works as it have always done, then people can turn this option on to have async delayed if they want. > b) delay and throttle EIP now have an option asyncDelayed() you can > use to enable them to use non blocking delay as well > > The only question though would be if we should have an option to allow > you to cancel tasks on shutdown. If you have messages queued up in the > delay/throttle. Then a fast stop to cancel the pending tasks is > possible. However the JDK ExecutorService API is damn poor in terms of > stopping the thread pool. You can only shut it down which then cant > restart it. And getting the pending tasks is also not possible unless > you gather the Future references and then remember to keep this list > up to date removing the done tasks. > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi >> >> The major goal for Camel 2.4 is introducing back the asynchronous >> routing engine from the Camel 1.x days. >> What we had replaced it with, just didn't cut it for the long run, so >> we had to toss it out and replace it back with the 1.x variation. >> However the 1.x variation is much more invasive in the camel core. >> However the benefits are worth it. >> >> There is a JIRA ticket to track this >> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-2723 >> >> We got so far with the code that we can move ahead the release >> schedule for 2.4 and thus why Hadrian send out >> an announcement yesterday. >> >> The engine has been integrated with Apache ServiceMix JBI and NMR, >> which means that in SMX 4.3 and Came. 2.4 onwards >> you have much better scalability and utilization of the resources. >> >> There is present only a single Camel component which leverages the >> async routing as well which is Jetty. >> The consumer side uses Jetty continuations and the producer side the >> Jetty http async client. >> >> We plan to expand this to other Camel components where async >> communication is native supported by the component. >> Such as Netty, Mina 2 (when its out), CXF producer, REST stuff and what else. >> >> Mind that async routing does not work to the fullest if you are not >> using transactions. Spring TM requires the transactional resources to >> be >> executed from the same thread context, which is why Camel will >> fallback to route fully synchronous if you use transacted routes. >> This works automatic and you dont have to worry about it to configure >> any of the Camel endpoints to cater for this. It's just that Camel >> will have the caller thread blocked while waiting for the async reply, >> in case you for example to request/reply over NMR in a transaction. >> >> >> Almost all the EIP patterns in Camel have been refactored to support >> async routing engine as well. So you can use Splitter, Recipient List, >> WireTap >> and all the others in the most optimal way. Currently there are 3 >> outstanding works to be looked at: >> - Throttler and Delayer EIP to not block while waiting >> - Multicast, Recipient List and Splitter EIP to support async routing >> engine when parallelProcessing option is enabled (this is a bit tricky >> to do). >> - RedeliverErrorHandler to use non blocking while waiting for delivery >> (current only enabled if async routing has been kicked in) but we can >> do this in a general. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Claus Ibsen >> Apache Camel Committer >> >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ >> Open Source Integration: http://fusesource.com >> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/davsclaus >> > > > > -- > Claus Ibsen > Apache Camel Committer > > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ > Open Source Integration: http://fusesource.com > Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ > Twitter: http://twitter.com/davsclaus > -- Claus Ibsen Apache Camel Committer Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ Open Source Integration: http://fusesource.com Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/davsclaus