+1,

and thanks for your hard work...

Best,
Christian

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I am inclined to backport these changes to the 2.9 branch as I think
> the bug from CAMEL-5164 would bite other people as well.
> I have a workaround patch for 2.9 branch as work in progress. But I
> dont feel its an optimal solution, as would the backport of the
> changes from 2.10.
>
> There is only a slight API change in TypeConverter. Most people would
> use the @Converter for their custom converters, and if so, then they
> are okay (no problem there). Only for people who implement the
> TypeConverter directly, and then add that directly to the
> TypeConverterRegistry API. Frankly I dont see this used at all by end
> users (The @Converter is mich simpler).
>
> However there is a slight change in the API from Message.getBody(type)
> and Message.getHeader(name, Type), as they would now throw a
> TypeConversionException if failing. Where as beforehand a WARN would
> be logged and null returned.
>
> IMHO the changes from 2.10 is better and also allows end users to be
> in control of the failure first-hand. And frankly also what I would
> expect from the call.
>
> If nobody scream, then we should get this backported for the next 2.9.3
> release.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> PS: I have attached my ugly workaround patch. We can use that as a
> backup if someone scream really loud.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Recently I have spent some time to improve the type converters in Camel
> 2.10.
> >
> > Most significant is the following changes
> > a) fix important bug
> > b) Fail fast
> > c) tryConvertTo
> > d) Expose utilization statistics
> >
> >
> > Ad a)
> > A bug was reported in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-5164
> >
> > In summary if using camel-jaxb that offers a fallback type converter,
> > and a failure occurs during XML marshalling,
> > then subsequent new XML messages may fail, despite they were okay.
> >
> > Ad b)
> > Due to a we need to detect this faster and better. So now the type
> > converter system in Camel will fail fast
> > by throwing a new TypeConversionException (its runtime). That allows
> > Camel to detect the (a) failure faster
> > from a fallback type converter (regular non fallback would fail fast
> already)
> >
> > This means the API is also consistent from caller point of view. You
> > get a TypeConversionException if there
> > was a failure during a type conversion attempt.
> >
> > Ad c)
> > There is some places in camel-core where we want to only try to
> > convert. For example with the binary predicates
> > where you want to compare if X > Y. Then we try to coerce X and Y to
> > numeric values.
> >
> > Likewise there is a few other spots where we do this, such as the XSLT
> > component, where we try to use StAX, SAX, before DOM etc.
> > So we have introduced a tryConvertTo API, which would not fail during
> > type conversion.
> >
> > Ad d)
> > The type converter system is used a lot in Camel during routing
> > messages. Now we expose utilization statistics,
> > which allow end users to spot if there is too many missing type
> > conversion attempts. For example a route may attempt to convert, where
> > there is no suitable type converter. This can now more easily be
> > spotted, allowing the end user to either. Implement such a missing
> > type converter, or
> > correct a mistake in his application or the likes.
> >
> > The statistics is exposed in JMX and as well when Camel shutdown as a
> log line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On another note I am also hunting down to avoid using the
> > PropertiesEditorTypeConverter, as it has many flaws
> > - its not thread safe
> > - its slow
> > - and 3rd party projects can add property editors that influence
> > Camel's type converts (eg ActiveMQ has a String -> List) properties
> > editor that turns a String into a List of ActiveMQDestination
> > instances.
> > - it does not understand generics in List/Collection type, eg the
> > ActiveMQ example above
> >
> > And basically we uses it only in Camel for doing some of the simpler
> > basic conversions: String <-> Numeric. And so forth. But over the time
> > we have added those as type converter directly in Camel, as they are
> > faster as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > -----------------
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>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
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