Hi

Yeah Babak's idea sounds good. Having that 2-level of parents.

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Babak Vahdat
<babak.vah...@swissonline.ch> wrote:
> I just tried out a different approach which:
>
> - doesn't require any Maven plugin usage.
> - doesn't require to convert the Maven properties from the XML format to the
> Java properties file format etc.
> - is really simple.
>
> So the idea is to simply bump one more level of parent-child dependency into
> our POM hierarchy (org.apache.camel:camel-dependencies:2.12-SNAPSHOT) which
> contains all the Maven properties of our 3rd party dependencies. And this is
> the diff for it  dependencies.diff
> <http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/file/n5737472/dependencies.diff>  .
>
> Then for the release notes of the upcomming 2.12.0 release we could just add
> the following link about our 3rd party dependencies, of course right now
> this resource doesn't exist on the central repo :-)
> http://search.maven.org/remotecontent?filepath=org/apache/camel/camel-dependencies/2.12.0/camel-dependencies-2.12.0.pom
>
>
> For example in case of our Camel Parent POM of the 2.11.1 release the link
> is:
> http://search.maven.org/remotecontent?filepath=org/apache/camel/camel-parent/2.11.1/camel-parent-2.11.1.pom
>
> Babak
>
>
> R. Sirchia wrote
>> Hi,
>>
>> Why don't you do it the other way around?
>>
>> I understand from Claus that his desire is not so much to manage the
>> dependencies and their versions in a different file, but just to provide a
>> file where the version properties can be easily read from and diffed
>> between releases.
>>
>> In that case, you could simply leave everything as it is and use the
>> properties maven plugin to write the existing properties to a properties
>> file:
>> http://mojo.codehaus.org/properties-maven-plugin/write-project-properties-mojo.html
>>
>> Optionally, the end result can be filtered using for example a
>> maven-antrun-plugin goal to leave out any non-version properties, which
>> should be easy as the version definitions (can easilly be made to) follow
>> a
>> certain naming convention.
>>
>> The end result (a clean *.properties file) can then be attached using the
>> build-helper plugin. It is then available in Maven Central to be
>> referenced
>> from the release notes, diffed or imported by any user, etc.
>>
>> Riccardo
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Jan Matèrne (jhm) &lt;
>
>> apache@
>
>> &gt;wrote:
>>
>>> I just played with that maven plugin.
>>> The problem is that it loads the properties after the validation phase.
>>>
>>> That wont work:
>>>
>>>
>
>>>
>> <project>
>>>
>> <modelVersion>
>> 4.0.0
>> </modelVersion>
>>>
>>>
>> <groupId>
>> just-test
>> </groupId>
>>>
>> <artifactId>
>> version-test
>> </artifactId>
>>>
>> <version>
>> 1.0
>> </version>
>>>
>>>
>> <build>
>>>
>> <plugins>
>>>
>> <plugin>
>>>
>> <groupId>
>> org.codehaus.mojo
>> </groupId>
>>>
>> <artifactId>
>> properties-maven-plugin
>> </artifactId>
>>>
>> <version>
>> 1.0-alpha-2
>> </version>
>>>
>> <executions>
>>>
>> <execution>
>>>
>> <phase>
>> initialize
>> </phase>
>>>
>> <goals>
>>>
>> <goal>
>> read-project-properties
>> </goal>
>>>
>> </goals>
>>>
>> <configuration>
>>>
>> <files>
>>>
>> <file>
>> versions.properties
>> </file>
>>>
>> </files>
>>>
>> </configuration>
>>>
>> </execution>
>>>
>> </executions>
>>>
>> </plugin>
>>>
>> </plugins>
>>>
>> </build>
>>>
>>>
>> <dependencies>
>>>
>> <dependency>
>>>
>> <groupId>
>> junit
>> </groupId>
>>>
>> <artifactId>
>> junit
>> </artifactId>
>>>
>> <version>
>> ${junit}
>> </version>
>>>
>> </dependency>
>>>
>> </dependencies>
>>>
>> </project>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also tried putting a
>>>
>> <properties>
>>>
>> <junit>
>> 1
>> </junit>
>>>
>> </properties>
>>> as placeholder for the validation doesnt work.
>>> The property is not changed to the stored junit=4.9 in my file.
>>>
>>>
>>> Current ideas:
>>> - building our own mvn plugin (enhancing that plugin) for loading the
>>> props
>>> and overwrite existing properties
>>> - generate a valid pom from the version-list
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> > Von: Babak Vahdat [mailto:
>
>> babak.vahdat@
>
>> ]
>>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 17. August 2013 21:48
>>> > An:
>
>> dev@.apache
>
>>> > Betreff: Re: [IDEA] - Having a parent maven pom.xml for only the
>>> > dependency versions
>>> >
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > what I'm aware of for this purpose is the following plugin:
>>> >
>>> > http://mojo.codehaus.org/properties-maven-plugin/usage.html
>>> >
>>> > However it's not maintained anymore since 2009!
>>> >
>>> > The other option would be to use the Kuali's plugin but I'm not sure
>>> > about it's licence (it's already available in central repo):
>>> >
>>> > http://site.kuali.org/maven/plugins/properties-maven-plugin/1.1.9/read-
>>> > project-properties-mojo.html
>>> >
>>> > No matter which one we would want to make use of, the tough part of
>>> > this would be to convert the lines like:
>>> >
>>> >
>> <ahc-version>
>> 1.7.19
>> </ahc-version>
>>> >
>>> > into:
>>> >
>>> > ahc-version=1.7.19
>>> >
>>> > But it should be possible to automate this conversion with couple of
>>> > lines of code, or maybe even a new Camel date format for this purpose
>>> > :-)
>>> >
>>> > Babak
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Claus Ibsen-2 wrote
>>> > > Hi
>>> > >
>>> > > Today we have the parent/pom.xml file which has both all the versions
>>> > > of the 3rd party JARs we have as dependencies. And also a list of all
>>> > > the camel components and some other stuff.
>>> > >
>>> > > I wonder if we could have all the dependency versions in a single
>>> > > file, without all the other stuff.
>>> > >
>>> > > This would make it easier for ppl to see what are the version changes
>>> > > between any two Camel versions, but just diff the 2 files?
>>> > >
>>> > > And also we could just have such a link in the release notes so we
>>> > > dont have to manually keep all the versions upgrades in the release
>>> > > notes up to date as well.
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Claus Ibsen
>>> > > -----------------
>>> > > Red Hat, Inc.
>>> > > Email:
>>> >
>>> > > cibsen@
>>> >
>>> > > Twitter: davsclaus
>>> > > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>> > > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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