On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> wrote:
> 2016-03-14 11:10 GMT+01:00 Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > 2016-03-14 10:53 GMT+01:00 Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately pax-exam seems a bit unstable. What I have noticed is
>> >> that if you run the tests
>> >>
>> >> cd tests/camel-itest-karaf
>> >> mvn clean install -Pkaraf4
>> >>
>> >> then it cannot test camel features that install bundles using the
>> >> "wrap" protocol. You get a protocol not supported exception. But it
>> >> install the wrap feature when it runs the tests. And it does not help
>> >> adding "wrap" as a feature yourself.
>> >>
>> >> So skipping those 20 or so camel features with wrap should allow to
>> >> run the others tests. But after testing 20+ or so then it just fails
>> >> without any good error why, and leave 5+ or JVMs hanging. So you need
>> >> to manually kill those karaf jvms. That is why I added that
>> >> kill-karaf.sh script.
>> >>
>> >> So if you find out the test it was doing last, and manually start
>> >> karaf and install the feature it works fine. So there is no "hint" why
>> >> it failed/crashed the tests.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Also the feature validation plugin of karaf is buggy. In Karaf 4.x the
>> >> plugin goal is missing. It was there on 2.x and 3.x. I have logged a
>> >> KARAF ticket. But it may be that the feature validation plugin is also
>> >> buggy and cannot run to completion either.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Which ticket ?
>> >
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-4415
>
>
> Yeah, this goal does not exist anymore.  It has been superseded by the
> verify goal in Karaf 4.x
> I can do a migration to Karaf 4, but do you still to support older karaf
> versions ?
> There's multiple options:
>   * keep camel compatible with karaf 2.x, 3.x, 4.x (the way it is, i.e. you
> can't benefit from karaf 4 new features)
>   * upgrade to 4.x and loose compatibility with 2.x and 3.x
>   * duplicate the integration code to support 2.x and 3.x with the current
> code, and a new integration for 4.x
>
> I raised a JIRA some time ago (CAMEL-9622
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-9622>) which I can work on at
> the same time for option #2 or #3.
>

Camel 2.17 is the last release to support karaf 2.x. So lets keep this
as is. Maybe add a -Pvalidate-karaf4 as profile to run validation with
the karaf 4 plugin and goal.

For Camel 2.18 we can fully migrate to karaf. So maybe its worth just
wait for 2.17 to be released as-is, and just do a bit of manually
testing in karaf 2.4 / 3.x and 4.x containers to see if the features
can install and work well enough.


>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> So people who are using osgi and karaf, step up to the plate and test
>> >> the Camel master branch source code.
>> >> And get the pax-exam and karaf guys to help fix pax-exam so it can run
>> >> those tests reliable.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi
>> >> >
>> >> > I have worked on improving the installation of Camel on Karaf to make
>> >> > it rely on newer versions of Spring. It could install and use the old
>> >> > spring 3.x libraries which was annoying when the entire world is using
>> >> > Spring 4.2 or 4.1 etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > So what I have done
>> >> >
>> >> > a)
>> >> > feature:install camel
>> >> >
>> >> > will only install camel-core and camel-blueprint. camel-spring is not
>> >> > longer installed by default as camel-spring uses spring-dm which loads
>> >> > in Spring 3.2.x.
>> >> > spring-dm is deprecated, and we want in Camel 2.18 to move spring-dm
>> >> > out of camel-spring into a new camel-spring-dm module. Then the
>> >> > camel-spring module can be a spring 4.x only.
>> >> >
>> >> > b)
>> >> > other features that uses spring libraries are not installing
>> >> > camel-spring but instead using the spring features from karaf. That
>> >> > helps to use the current spring version and not install spring 3.x due
>> >> > to camel-spring bring that in due dm (see a)
>> >> >
>> >> > c)
>> >> > make some of the camel-spring-xxx modules that requires spring 4.x to
>> >> > have proper version range in the osgi manifest so they can be
>> >> > installed reliable and use spring 4.x as intended.
>> >> >
>> >> > d)
>> >> > The used spring-range is [4.1,5) which mean it supports the default
>> >> > spring version that karaf install in karaf 2.4 / 3.x and 4.x all
>> >> > together. However in Camel 2.18 we change this to [4.2,5) as we drop
>> >> > support for both spring 4.0 and 4.1 all together.
>> >> >
>> >> > e)
>> >> > I got the tests/camel-itest-karaf to work again - after much hard
>> work.
>> >> > You can run the tests against 3 different karaf containers
>> >> >
>> >> > mvn clean install
>> >> > mvn clean install -Pkaraf3
>> >> > mvn clean install -Pkaraf4
>> >> >
>> >> > We will in Camel 2.18 drop support for karaf 2.4.x and (maybe 3.x
>> >> > also) and make those tests use karaf 4 by default.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Any Karaf users with Camel. Its your chance to help testing and
>> >> > provide feedback.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Claus Ibsen
>> >> > -----------------
>> >> > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> >> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Claus Ibsen
>> >> -----------------
>> >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > Guillaume Nodet
>> > ------------------------
>> > Red Hat, Open Source Integration
>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Red Hat, Open Source Integration
>
> Email: gno...@redhat.com
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