Hi

Sounds good.

Btw the camel archetypes in tooling/archetypes need to be changed as
well. There is some that builds OSGi projects. It would be better if
we build those like we do build Camel itself now.



On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Raul Kripalani <ra...@apache.org> wrote:
> Changes are pushed now. First commit with lambdas done too ;-)
>
> Gotta keep an eye on Jenkins tonight.
>
> BTW - OSGi Karaf tests were 100% OK. Thanks for the script, Claus.
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Raúl Kripalani*
> PMC & Committer @ Apache Ignite, Apache Camel | Integration, Big Data and
> Messaging Engineer
> http://about.me/raulkripalani | http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
> Blog: raul.io | twitter: @raulvk <https://twitter.com/raulvk>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Raul Kripalani <r...@evosent.com> wrote:
>> > Yep, today, hopefully.
>> >
>> > Faced a few complications with the Camel Blueprint and Camel Spring
>> > bundles, which were inlining other modules via the bundle plugin.
>> >
>>
>> Yeah there is some ant tasks that copy the source of camel-core-osgi
>> and camel-core-xml AFAIR.
>> There were OSGi problems back then to make those as individual bundles.
>> So having it all in the same bundle made it work.
>>
>>
>> > Cheers,
>> > Raúl.
>> > On 30 Mar 2016 16:06, "Quinn Stevenson" <qu...@pronoia-solutions.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Any updates on when this will be merged?  I have a couple of PRs I’m
>> >> working on that this effects.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Mar 29, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Quinn Stevenson <
>> >> qu...@pronoia-solutions.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > For the JARs that will not be bundles - what do we want in the
>> >> MANIFEST.MF?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Mar 29, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Raul Kripalani <ra...@apache.org
>> >> <mailto:ra...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Can we flip the switch so you have to enable it on the maven
>> modules
>> >> >>>> that you want to be an osgi bundle. I am asking because people who
>> are
>> >> >>>> not using OSGi should really not see camel.osgi.skip=true in the
>> >> >>>> examples / camel-spring-boot-starter etc.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> They should be clean and without any osgi stuff.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Also I would rather make it explicit that this maven module is
>> built
>> >> >>>> as an osgi bundle if it has camel.osgi=true.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I see your point. What I'll do is make the activation rely on
>> property
>> >> >>> value comparison rather than property presence, e.g.
>> >> camel.osgi=true/false.
>> >> >>> That way, we can set camel.osgi=true on components/pom.xml, and
>> exclude
>> >> >>> only the few components that are not OSGi by setting
>> camel.osgi=false
>> >> on
>> >> >>> their POMs.
>> >> >>> For the examples, we can set camel.osgi=false on examples/pom.xml,
>> and
>> >> only
>> >> >>> set the property to true on those examples that are meant to be
>> >> bundles.
>> >> >>> Let's play with value rather than presence/absence, because once you
>> >> set a
>> >> >>> property up the chain in the Maven reactor, I don't think you can
>> >> unset it
>> >> >>> (or can you?).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Although... Approaching it from a different angle, it may be worth
>> to
>> >> >>> explicitly define the build plugins in each example POM. Thus we can
>> >> >>> attempt to make the example "self-contained".
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yeah would love to make the examples self container without a parent.
>> >> >> And then they should import the Camel BOM instead (aka camel parent).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then end users can just copy those and adjust them as needed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not sure if we have tried this in the past and had trouble with the
>> >> >> release build?
>> >> >> And there is 50+ examples so a fair bit of work to migrate. But we
>> >> >> have a big community so people can help with this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> That would take more work, so I won't do it now, but just wanted to
>> >> hear
>> >> >>> your thoughts.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yeah sounds good.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Cheers,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> *Raúl Kripalani*
>> >> >>> PMC & Committer @ Apache Ignite, Apache Camel | Integration, Big
>> Data
>> >> and
>> >> >>> Messaging Engineer
>> >> >>> http://about.me/raulkripalani <http://about.me/raulkripalani> |
>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani <
>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani>
>> >> >>> Blog: raul.io <http://raul.io/> | twitter: @raulvk <
>> >> https://twitter.com/raulvk <https://twitter.com/raulvk>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Claus Ibsen
>> >> >> -----------------
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>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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