Hi

Yeah sure sounds good that all this works will pay of and we will be
migrated for 2.18 release.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> tests/camel-itest             --> works
> tests/camel-itest-karaf       --> need to keep log4j because of pax logging
> tests/camel-itest-spring-boot --> migrated
>
> I've pushed some new bits with some fixes to my branch as well as some fixes
> for few test in camel-itest-karaf about system packages needed by Ignite and
> Drools.
>
> I'm almost ready to rebase from master and the merge my work if you do not
> have any objection.
>
>
>
> ---
> Luca Burgazzoli
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Luca
>>
>> Its a lot of changes but it looks good.
>>
>> I think its maybe only the maven archetypes that may need a bit of
>> manual testing to see if the generated projects are all compiling and
>> working as expected.
>>
>> I noticed on master branch (not yours) that the blueprint archetype do
>> not log to the console when you run mvn camel:run goal. This is likely
>> a general problem where we may need to tweak the run goal to automatic
>> include some kind of logging out of the box (or include the test
>> scoped src/test/resources/log4j properties) or whatever it takes.
>>
>> I suggest you run the tests in
>>
>> tests/camel-itest
>> tests/camel-itest-karaf
>> tests/camel-itest-spring-boot
>>
>> to see if they are still all working.
>>
>> However great work to migrate all that. Then we can get this in the
>> 2.18 release.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> I've pushed the latest bit of the migration in my branch.
>>> Except for the mentioned components, everything else should have been 
>>> migrated.
>>>
>>> I really appreciate if someone could help testing a little bit with a
>>> focus on tooling, examples and tests.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I do not remember now but some problems come from the test
>>>> dependencies we use (like microcluster, etc)
>>>> Need to digg into the issue more once the majority of the migration will 
>>>> be done
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah sounds good the migration goes so well, and that there is only a
>>>>> few components that may be stuck on log4j 1.x. But those 3rd party
>>>>> libraries may migrate to log4j v2 or some other logging api (slf4j-api
>>>>> etc) in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Though a bit surprising that Apache Spark is locked down on log4j v1.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've setup my own branch
>>>>>> (https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/tree/CAMEL-10224-log4j2)
>>>>>> were I'm doing some test to migrate to log4j2.
>>>>>> So far migrating the properties was not an issue and automated through a 
>>>>>> script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following component can't be migrate as they have some code based on 
>>>>>> log4j:
>>>>>> - camel-spark
>>>>>> - camel-spark-rest
>>>>>> - camel-sip
>>>>>> - camel-hbase
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For other components I found that log4j.properties was used also to
>>>>>> perform some test (i.e. a file to serve in jetty9).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the remaining component and caml-core have been tested an
>>>>>> successfully migrated.
>>>>>> I still need to migrate examples, tooling and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> We have a ticket to track migration issues:
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1473
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 August 2016 at 12:24, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, that's a motivation I can get behind! :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:38 PM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Another motivation is that when Camel wants to work on JDK9 support,
>>>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>>>> > find that log4j 1.x doesn't work anymore.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On 2 August 2016 at 11:21, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > My only motivation was to keep the dependencies up to date
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > ---
>>>>>>>> > > Luca Burgazzoli
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:50 PM, James Carman <
>>>>>>>> ja...@carmanconsulting.com
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > > If it's only for test, what's the motivation?  Is anything 
>>>>>>>> > > > broken?
>>>>>>>> > Does
>>>>>>>> > > > anything code directly to the API?
>>>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:21 AM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> You can use YAML instead of XML or properties files for a nice
>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>> > > >> format. Plus, there's a few log4j 1->2 tools out there already:
>>>>>>>> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1436
>>>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> On 2 August 2016 at 09:48, Nicola Ferraro <ni.ferr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > I logged a Jira:
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-10217
>>>>>>>> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Claus Ibsen <
>>>>>>>> claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> > > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > Hi
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > Yeah some should be removed, but mind that some 3rd party
>>>>>>>> > libraries
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > are using log4j hardcoded as dependency so not all can be
>>>>>>>> removed.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > But I think camel-scr is a mistake to use log4j.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > Its worthwhile I think to take a look which one can be 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > removed
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> > > not.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > Feel free to log a JIRA and work on this.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Nicola Ferraro <
>>>>>>>> > nferr...@redhat.com
>>>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > Doing integration tests I found that some components 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > include
>>>>>>>> > > logging
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > implementations outside the test scope, so I did a fast 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > check:
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *for comp in $(ls | grep "camel-" | grep -v ".iml"); do*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > * cd $comp*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > * mvn dependency:tree | grep
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > 'log4j\|logback\|slf4j-simple\|slf4j-jdk14\|slf4j-log4j12'
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >  |
>>>>>>>> > grep
>>>>>>>> > > -v
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > test |
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > xargs -I line echo "$(pwd) line"*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > * cd ..*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *done*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > Although it is ok for a spring-boot starter to include a
>>>>>>>> logging
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > implementation, they should not be included in normal
>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>> > > >> modules
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > IMO.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > Should these dependencies be removed?
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > The results:
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-atmos [INFO] |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-gora [INFO] |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > org.slf4j:slf4j-log4j12:jar:1.7.21:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-gora [INFO] |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-hbase [INFO] |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-jbpm [INFO] +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > org.slf4j:slf4j-log4j12:jar:1.7.21:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-jbpm [INFO] |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-jt400 [INFO] +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > org.slf4j:slf4j-log4j12:jar:1.7.21:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-jt400 [INFO] |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-krati [INFO] |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-openshift [INFO] |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-salesforce [INFO] +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-scr [INFO] +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > org.slf4j:slf4j-log4j12:jar:1.7.21:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-scr [INFO] +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spark [INFO] |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spark [INFO] |  |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > log4j:apache-log4j-extras:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spark-rest [INFO] |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > org.slf4j:slf4j-simple:jar:1.7.21:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spring-boot [INFO] |  |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > ch.qos.logback:logback-classic:jar:1.1.7:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spring-boot [INFO] |  |  |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > ch.qos.logback:logback-core:jar:1.1.7:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spring-boot [INFO] |  |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > org.slf4j:log4j-over-slf4j:jar:1.7.21:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spring-boot-starter [INFO] |  | 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > ch.qos.logback:logback-classic:jar:1.1.7:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spring-boot-starter [INFO] |  | 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >  |
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > ch.qos.logback:logback-core:jar:1.1.7:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-spring-boot-starter [INFO] |  | 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > org.slf4j:log4j-over-slf4j:jar:1.7.21:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-zipkin-starter [INFO] |  |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > ch.qos.logback:logback-classic:jar:1.1.7:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-zipkin-starter [INFO] |  |  |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > ch.qos.logback:logback-core:jar:1.1.7:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-zipkin-starter [INFO] |  |  -
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > org.slf4j:log4j-over-slf4j:jar:1.7.21:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > *./camel/components/camel-zookeeper [INFO] |  +-
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.17:compile*
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <
>>>>>>>> > > >> lburgazz...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> Yep, I meant upgrading log4j for test only, run-time 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> should
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> definitively use slf4j-api (or maybe a custom facade)
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> ---
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Claus Ibsen <
>>>>>>>> > > claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > lburgazz...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >> Hello,
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >> as log4j 1.2 is EOL since a year, would it make sense 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >> to
>>>>>>>> > move
>>>>>>>> > > to
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > log4j
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> 2 ?
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > We only use it for testing. No runtime dependency.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > log4j v2 did not support log4j.properties file so any
>>>>>>>> > migration
>>>>>>>> > > >> was
>>>>>>>> > > >> > a
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > real pain as the log4j xml file format is verbose and
>>>>>>>> clunky
>>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>> > > >> work
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > with.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > Only recently they added support for .properties file 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > but I
>>>>>>>> > > think
>>>>>>>> > > >> > they
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > may have changed the syntax slightly (not sure).
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22485074/log4j-2-doesnt-support-log4j-properties-file-anymore
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > And I think I read somewhere that log4j v1 has problems
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> > > Java
>>>>>>>> > > >> 9.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > If migration can be super easy on current 2.18 then it 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > is
>>>>>>>> > okay.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > Some kind of migration tool that can covert v1 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > properties
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> > v2
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > properties then that can be doable.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > But if not then I would like to postpone this to Camel 
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > 3.
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >> ---
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > --
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > -----------------
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > --
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > Nicola Ferraro <nferr...@redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > Senior Software Engineer, JBoss Fuse
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > --
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > -----------------
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>>>>>>>> > > >> > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>>>>>>> > > >> > >
>>>>>>>> > > >> >
>>>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > > >> --
>>>>>>>> > > >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> > > >>
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>>>>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2



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