Hi Claus

Thanks for the heads up.
I did some fix of the format issues of the wiki pages. I just realize they
are supposed to be read only now.
I know we will create a new website for those components , but it looks
like there are lots of wiki pages are not ported.
Do we have any plan for it?


Willem Jiang

Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
          http://jnn.iteye.com  (Chinese)
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Willem
>
> Just a heads-up that component documents in the wiki is to be
> considered deprecated and in read-only mode.
> The correct place for component documentations is in the source code
> with those ascii doc files in the src/main/docs folder.
>
> So if you do any WIKI edits then they are LOST!!!
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Zoran,
> >
> > Thanks for the information, I will play with it when I get some time.
> >
> > BTW, there are some formate issues[1] about showing the code snippet in
> the
> > current website,  do we have any plan for fixing these kind of issue?
> >
> > [1]http://camel.apache.org/spring.html
> >
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> >           http://jnn.iteye.com  (Chinese)
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Willem,
> >> I started a `website` branch a while back, and there is a README.md[1]
> >> there that has some information. That being said I'm experimenting
> >> with transitioning to JBake as it seems to have better support for
> >> Asciidoc and this might change, I'll keep that README up to date
> >> though.
> >>
> >> If you're asking about how the current website is built, from what
> >> I've understood there is a build job that's triggered when the
> >> Confluence WIKI is updated and runs `build_cms.sh`[2], there is a
> >> README[3] in the SVN repository there, the job (I guess, I've never
> >> seen the job configuration) then copies the output to a directory
> >> served by as camel.apache.org.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> zoran
> >>
> >> [1] https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/website/camel-
> website/README.md
> >> [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/camel/website/
> >> [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/camel/website/README
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 2:08 AM, Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Is there a brief introduction of the current camel document building
> >> > processing?
> >> > I just found there are some maven plugins which can generate the
> document
> >> > there.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Willem Jiang
> >> >
> >> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> >> >           http://jnn.iteye.com  (Chinese)
> >> > Twitter: willemjiang
> >> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> oh, my bad.
> >> >> The URL  that I want to share is.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-servicecomb-website
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Willem Jiang
> >> >>
> >> >> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> >> >>           http://jnn.iteye.com  (Chinese)
> >> >> Twitter: willemjiang
> >> >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi Willem
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Great to hear you got some experience with building a website with
> >> >>> markdown content.
> >> >>> We are using ascii doc but it should be similar.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you wanted to refer to a link in [1] then I dont see that in your
> >> >>> email.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Willem Jiang <
> willem.ji...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > +1 for bring a new website.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Normally, there are some building blocks project in the github for
> >> the
> >> >>> > personal website.
> >> >>> > Last year we built a new website[1] for the ServiceComb project by
> >> using
> >> >>> > markdown as the content.
> >> >>> > Maybe we can do the same thing for the new camel website.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Any thoughts?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Willem Jiang
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> >> >>> >           http://jnn.iteye.com  (Chinese)
> >> >>> > Twitter: willemjiang
> >> >>> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Claus Ibsen <
> claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> Hi
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I have created a new draft to post on the Camel front page.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Any comments and feedback?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Update on the Apache Camel website and documentation
> >> >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> The current Apache Camel website and documentation is currently
> >> >>> undergoing
> >> >>> >> work to be rewamped and updated for a modern website.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> This work has been underway for a longer time. We kicked off the
> >> work
> >> >>> by
> >> >>> >> migrating the documentation of every Camel component from the
> wiki
> >> >>> system
> >> >>> >> to the source code as ascii doc files. This allowed us during the
> >> build
> >> >>> >> of the Apache Camel project to automatic keep parts of the
> >> >>> documentation
> >> >>> >> up-to-date with the source code, such as when new options is
> added
> >> to
> >> >>> >> components.
> >> >>> >> We then moved on migrate all the data formats, languages, and the
> >> EIP
> >> >>> >> patterns.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> This has been substantional work, as if you were to print all the
> >> >>> >> Camel documentation
> >> >>> >> then it would be more than 3000 sheets of papers.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> At this point of time, we are about to draft up a new table of
> >> content
> >> >>> >> (TOC) for the
> >> >>> >> new Apache Camel documentation and user guide. With the new TOC
> we
> >> >>> >> will then re-work
> >> >>> >> all the user guide documentation to be updated and focus on
> modern
> >> >>> >> developer with Camel.
> >> >>> >> In doing so we will grab the good parts of the existing (older)
> >> >>> >> documentation, and in
> >> >>> >> places needed, we will rewrite the documentation.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> The new website and documentation has a new build system that is
> >> also
> >> >>> >> worked. When this
> >> >>> >> system is ready we will have a new staging URL where we will
> >> regularly
> >> >>> >> publish the content,
> >> >>> >> so users can follow the progress.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Because the new documentation will be in the source code and in
> >> ascii
> >> >>> >> doc format, then its
> >> >>> >> easier for Camel users to contrbute and help - you can simply
> just
> >> >>> >> submit patches as GitHub PRs.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Have patience with us, as it may take a couple of months for us
> to
> >> be
> >> >>> >> ready to publish the staging URL.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> We anticipate to have a new website and documentation ready after
> >> the
> >> >>> >> summer break of 2018.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Claus Ibsen <
> claus.ib...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Hi
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > I think we should post a news on the Camel front page about the
> >> >>> >> > situation with the current old website and docs vs the new
> website
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> >> > docs from the source.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > A rough plan for the new website and docs could be
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > - finish migrating the EIP docs
> >> >>> >> > - create new TOC for new documentation
> >> >>> >> > - copy over the good parts of the old docs for the new TOC and
> >> >>> >> > otherwise write new parts from scratch (will be ongoing through
> >> 2018)
> >> >>> >> > - build a new modern front page
> >> >>> >> > - use the new Camel logo
> >> >>> >> > - publish this to a new staging url so anyone can follow the
> work
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > A work plan could be that after the 2.21 release we will finish
> >> the
> >> >>> >> > EIP migrations and get started on the TOC and gradually build
> up
> >> the
> >> >>> >> > new documentation. At the same time folks work on the new
> website
> >> >>> with
> >> >>> >> > a new build system for publishing that, and get the tech stuff
> in
> >> >>> >> > order.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > The new front page is likely where many people may have
> >> >>> feedback/ideas
> >> >>> >> > and it can take some time to get right - if there are more
> >> proposals
> >> >>> >> > we could run a vote etc. Also we need new content for:
> >> >>> >> > - What is Apache Camel
> >> >>> >> > - How to get started etc
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > eg content for onboarding new users and getting them to quickly
> >> >>> >> > understand what Camel is. That information is needed on both
> the
> >> >>> front
> >> >>> >> > page and some beginner pages.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > As we are all busy with other duties at work / life / etc.
> then I
> >> >>> dont
> >> >>> >> > think we can do this quickly. And therefore I anticipate that
> we
> >> can
> >> >>> >> > do
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > - a new stating url with a prototype of the new website and
> docs
> >> >>> ready
> >> >>> >> > for summer 2018
> >> >>> >> > - continued work on the TOC and docs until its ready to replace
> >> the
> >> >>> old
> >> >>> >> site
> >> >>> >> > - switch over to new website after summer 2018 when its ready
> >> (maybe
> >> >>> >> > as part of Camel 2.23 release etc).
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > For the news on the Camel front page, then I do think we should
> >> draft
> >> >>> >> > up a text that we can present. The stuff I wrote above is a bit
> >> >>> >> > "rough" so I think we need to come up with a new text for the
> >> Camel
> >> >>> >> > front page.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Anyone wanna help with that?
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > --
> >> >>> >> > Claus Ibsen
> >> >>> >> > -----------------
> >> >>> >> > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> >> >>> >> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> --
> >> >>> >> Claus Ibsen
> >> >>> >> -----------------
> >> >>> >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> >> >>> >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Claus Ibsen
> >> >>> -----------------
> >> >>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> >> >>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Zoran Regvart
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>

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