Hi,

+1 to website and JDK 11 comptability definitely.
One small note i want to say IMHO, velocity of adoption of new JDK releases
in some corp env is not as fast as JDK releases. I am not saying JDK is
super fast on new deliveries but in corp adoptions are somehow tedious and
not  easy.

it would be good if we have java 8 as the base minimum version.

Thanks,
Önder


On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 9:38 AM Francois Papon <francois.pa...@openobject.fr>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm agree for the website and we could also add a new dedicated page
> about Camel K ?
>
> Btw, I'm ready to help working on the website ;)
>
> Regards,
>
> François Papon
> fpa...@apache.org
>
> Le 12/12/2018 à 06:57, Willem Jiang a écrit :
> > Thanks for th Zoran, I think website is quite important for the user
> > find the documents and solutions.
> > We definitely could get some help from the community if we put it into
> > the roadmap.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:18 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi Cameleers,
> >> exciting times ahead indeed :)
> >>
> >> I'd like to put the new website and work around Java 11 compatibility
> >> on the roadmap.
> >>
> >> I had a couple of days to experiment with Antora for the user manual
> >> and component documentation and thus far it seems very promising. Once
> >> I merry this with the Hugo static site generator for the rest of the
> >> pages we'll have a rough first pass of the new website (hope on doing
> >> that soon). We've had a great deal of interest in getting this done
> >> and few folks already helped or announced their willingness to help.
> >> And I'm not saying that the website will be done for Camel 3 release,
> >> I'd actually like to see it done in the next 1-2 months.
> >>
> >> For the Java 11 support, I think this should go in to the 2.x with our
> >> current approach of testing on Java 11 and upgrading component
> >> dependencies when they're Java 11 ready. All work on this is in the
> >> `java-10-test` branch. One thought I had is that we could introduce a
> >> `camel-java11-compat` dependency that would bring in the JEE APIs
> >> (JAXB and the rest) that were removed from Java 11. For Camel 3,
> >> perhaps we can make Java 11 the base minimum version -- would be good
> >> to get some feedback on this. One more thing we could try to evaluate
> >> is the use of Java modules, Camel 3, IMHO, should at least be Java
> >> module ready, i.e. have `Automatic-Module-Name` in the manifest.
> >> Perhaps we can count the number of component dependencies that are
> >> usable on the module path and see if we can go ahead and add
> >> `module-info.java` in (some?) of the components.
> >>
> >> zoran
> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 2:59 PM Andrea Cosentino
> >> <ancosen1...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>> Hello Camelers,
> >>>
> >>> We are starting the work on Apache Camel 3. We are working at multiple
> levels to improve Camel and introduce new features.
> >>>
> >>> The first work has actually started by Guillaume Nodet in the start of
> October, where he jump started by cleaning up the codebase, removed
> deprecated code and components, improving the routing engine and other
> internals in the core. His work is published on the sandbox/3.x branch. We
> plan to use his work as the baseline for the actual Camel 3. I have helped
> by aligning this branch with all the changes from the master branch (2.x)
> so its fully up to date. The intention is to switch over the sandbox/3.x
> branch as the new master branch, so we can start working on that branch and
> being able to add new features, components etc. (as always) for Camel 3.
> >>>
> >>> For 2.x users we will create a 2.x branch where we plan to do 1 or 2
> more last 2.x releases, eg 2.24 and 2.25, before 3.0 is ready and released.
> >>>
> >>> Here in the beginning of the Camel 3 work is to continue the work from
> Guillaume Nodet and finish up the cleanup of the codebase, modularize the
> camel-core, etc.
> >>>
> >>> We invite community users and any Camel committers and developers who
> has interest to help with the Camel 3 work. We have talked about doing a
> number of milestone releases of 3.x that can help give feedback to us
> quicker and faster. For example any Camel users of 2.x can try to upgrade
> and use the 3.0 milestone releases to report back their findings.
> >>>
> >>> Over the coming weeks it would be good if we could work on the roadmap
> and a rough timetable for Camel 3 so we can sketch out the first set of
> goals for the first milestone release and then rinse and repeat for the
> upcoming milestone releases.
> >>>
> >>> We have also talked about letting Camel 3 be a timeboxed release to
> avoid it dragging out “forever”. It would be great if we can build and
> release Camel 3 within 1 year of development, for example maybe try to aim
> for a release in Q3 2019.
> >>>
> >>> We will keep the community posted on the progress, and as always we
> love contribution and any feedback.
> >>>
> >>> Exciting times ahead!
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Claus & Andrea
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andrea Cosentino
> >>> ----------------------------------
> >>> Apache Camel PMC Chair
> >>> Apache Karaf Committer
> >>> Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> >>> Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com
> >>> Twitter: @oscerd2
> >>> Github: oscerd
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Zoran Regvart
>

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