On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:14 PM Zheng Feng <zf...@redhat.com> wrote:

> +1 But it looks like not all of the camel components have been available on
> the camel-quarkus. Would this be a problem ?
>

I don't see this as a severe issue as it is just a matter of time and we
can at least generate a JVM only extension of every missing component.


> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 7:51 PM Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > When we started working on camel-k, we haven't found any
> runtime/framework
> > that could cope with the type of workloads we had in mind for camel-k so
> we
> > ended up rolling our own framework but later on the Quarkus project has
> > started and that has changed a little the landscape as the Quarkus goal
> is
> > to support the very same cloud native workload swe want to support so we
> > have added support for Quarkus in camel-k.
> >
> > So as today we have two runtimes on which integrations can run:
> > - our in-house one based on camel-main
> > - a Quarkus based one that leverages the camel-quarkus project
> >
> > Here I'm proposing that after camel-k 1.0.0 we'll drop support for the
> > in-house framework and focus our effort on making Quarkus the foundation
> > for camel-k runtimes (the integrations) as:
> >
> > 1. Maintaining the two runtimes is becoming a challenge as a lot of
> > features we want are already provided by Quarkus and to make the runtimes
> > on par we need to develop the same set of features on our in-house
> > framework (think about health checks, integration with tracing and
> > monitoring, security, etc.). For the end-users it is also confusing as
> the
> > two runtimes have a different set of configuration options so even if
> > there's no difference between how routes are written using one or the
> other
> > runtime is not completely transparent.
> >
> > 2. Quarkus offers faster startup and reduced memory footprint by moving
> > some of the initialization at build time which copes perfectly with our
> > camel-k design as we can make optimized images once and re-use them for a
> > number of integrations.
> >
> > 3. Quarkus and the Camel Quarkus subproject can help us to leverage
> native
> > compilation when possible which fits perfectly with the serverless
> workload
> > we want camel-k to target.
> >
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Luca Burgazzoli
> >
>

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