My question would be, until when we will need to keep Java 8? I mean sure, given the current circumstances, it might make sense to delay dropping Java 8 only for some time, but honestly would be nice if we can embrace the new change and massive efforts that are being brought into Java to have modernized (especially the new features being Java 14). It would be a pity if we can't enjoy these new features being brought in by the Java community and I don't want to see us stucking with Java 8 for another 10 years. The change has to be forced at some point of the chain in order to trickle down.
These are only my thoughts on this subject. Regards, Omar On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:33 PM Luca Burgazzoli <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think that migrating to a new version also means that we need to > embrace every new feature automatically but that we can use them when it > makes sense but staying with an older version means that we can't use them > in any case. > > --- > Luca Burgazzoli > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:23 PM Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Note that we changed a bunch of lambda expressions back to anonymous > > classes a few months ago, so trying to get to the latest is not always > the > > best choice. > > I'm not sure we need to drop Java 8 now. We can defer that decision > until > > we have more incentive I think., > > > > Le lun. 29 juin 2020 à 18:01, Peter Palaga <[email protected]> a écrit > : > > > > > On 29/06/2020 11:59, Peter Palaga wrote: > > > > On 29/06/2020 07:29, Claus Ibsen wrote: > > > >> Hi > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 4:28 PM Peter Palaga <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Hi Claus, > > > >>> > > > >>> we have announced a similar move for Camel Quarkus some time ago. > We > > > did > > > >>> that based on a similar Quarkus announcement [1]. But when I was > > about > > > >>> to perform the necessary changes, it turned out that Quarkus got > some > > > >>> pushback from the users and thus they abandoned the plan without > > > letting > > > >>> us know - see [2]. As a result, Camel Quarkus also had to revisit > the > > > >>> plan. We have decided to make Java 11 our main build and testing > JDK, > > > >>> but kept both source and target compatibility at Java 8. > > > >>> > > > >>> Requiring Java 11+ API on the Camel side would put Camel Quarkus > in a > > > >>> bit uncomfortable position: unlike all other extensions offered via > > > >>> code.quarkus.io, our extensions would not work on Java 8 in JVM > > mode. > > > >>> > > > >>> We (Camel community) should figure out how to proceed. > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> The drop of Java 8 is planned for next LTS (Camel 3.7) which is by > end > > > >> of this year. > > > >> So there is still 6 months to go. In that time Quarkus may get to a > > > >> point where they have dropped Java 8 as well. > > > >> > > > >> But for Camel 3.5 we can surely wait to drop Java 8 so it does not > > > >> happen soon on the Camel side. > > > >> > > > >> Would ou you go ask the Quarkus team what new timeframe they have > for > > > >> dropping Java 8? > > > > > > > > Asked > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/quarkus-dev/7SZAM2BMb9c > > > > > > They asked back, what are our motivations for removing Java 8. I can > say > > > for myself that it is mainly a simplification of our testing matrix. > Are > > > there any other reasons? > > > > > > Besides they noted that Azure Functions still only supports Java 8. > > > > > > -- P > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> [1] > > > >>> > > https://quarkus.io/blog/quarkus-1-4-final-released/#java-8-deprecated > > > >>> [2] > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/quarkus-dev/yzEjmYCFbwY/oW64kts3AQAJ > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks, > > > >>> > > > >>> -- Peter > > > >>> > > > >>> On 26/06/2020 10:23, Claus Ibsen wrote: > > > >>>> Hi > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Just a heads up that from Camel 3.5 onwards we will drop Java 8 > > > >>>> support. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> So this means that minimum Java version is now Java 11. > > > >>>> We are also working on adding support for Java 14, but it may > take a > > > >>>> few releases, but its planned for the next LTS 3.7 release to have > > > >>>> both Java 11 and 14 as supported. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Camel 3.4.x is the LTS release that supports both Java 8 and 11, > and > > > >>>> its supported for 1-year (june 2022). > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------ > > Guillaume Nodet > > >
