I'm +1 on this. But this needs to be a shared effort

Il gio 20 ago 2020, 19:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofre <[email protected]> ha scritto:

> Hi Zoran,
>
> ServiceMix Bundles are definitely the way to go, and for instance I fixed
> both spring-data and Elasticsearch bundles today fixing the
> camel-elasticsearch-rest and camel-spring-redis components.
> So, we can keep this approach.
>
> However, shipping dependency in camel components bundles have advantage:
> 1. We don’t need the ServiceMix bundles anymore
> 2. No brainer about the imports and some class loader trick, so it would
> be easier
> 3. Maintenance is quite the same
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> > Le 20 août 2020 à 18:57, Zoran Regvart <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >
> > Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> > I think this is almost a necessity, a lot of projects have stopped
> > shipping OSGI manifest. I am a bit worried about maintenance overhead
> > and limiting the ability to patch dependencies (esp. for security
> > updates).
> >
> > I thought we get the best of both worlds with servicemix-bundles, not
> > sure if it would be a good idea to adopt that approach in camel-karaf,
> > i.e. create bundles for dependencies there? Obviously the downside
> > would be more maintenance, which I don't think we can avoid in any
> > case, right?
> >
> > zoran
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 8:14 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> Yesterday I spent a bunch part of the day fixing issue with
> camel-elasticsearch (both Elasticsearch bundle and camel feature).
> >>
> >> I would like to propose a change in Camel Karaf about component
> packaging.
> >>
> >> Right now, we use camel features repo to "install" the component with
> its dependency.
> >> I would like to propose to "embed" the component dependencies in the
> component bundle itself.
> >>
> >> Basically the proposal is:
> >> 1. To introduce a classifier "bundle" for component (can be done in
> camel-karat)
> >> 2. Dramatically simplify the feature to mostly install only the
> component bundle
> >>
> >> There are pros/cons about this approach:
> >> Pros:
> >>  - no need to have OSGi compliant dependency
> >>  - no class loader issue if the dependency is not OSGi compliant (as
> all will be in the component class loader)
> >>  - coupling the component with the dependency version (resolution at
> build time)
> >> Cons:
> >>  - component bundle are larger than before (as they embed dependency)
> >>  - dependency version are strongly coupled within the component (which
> is not necessary a bad thing)
> >>
> >> Alternatively, we can imagine a camel karaf component deployer that do
> quite the same without embedding the dependency in the artifact (I can
> create the bundle on the fly at runtime).
> >>
> >> Thoughts ?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zoran Regvart
>
>

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