Thanks Andrea.

I was thinking: how about we only mark the classes as deprecated for now?
Therefore we start to gently encourage users to look at test-infra.

In my original email I mentioned removing them before the next LTS, but,
indeed, this may be way too soon.

Kind regards

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:49 PM Andrea Cosentino <anco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use test-infra stuff even at ckc but before deprecating the
> testcontainers components I'd like to have feedback from existing users..
>
> Il mar 5 gen 2021, 11:36 Otavio Rodolfo Piske <angusyo...@gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
> > Thanks Claus! That's a good point and I haven't written much - other than
> > the pre 3.7 release doc update - about it.
> >
> > Let me show what a conversion from the camel-testcontainer to
> > camel-test-infra would look like ... I am using the work on camel-nats as
> > an example and we can compare how the base test class for nats changed
> > between 3.6.x [1] and 3.7.x [2].
> >
> > The first conversion step is to replace the camel-testcontainer
> > dependencies [3] with the ones from the test-infra module [4]. Then, it's
> > necessary to replace the container handling code and the old base class
> [5]
> > with the service provided in the module. It's important to register it
> as a
> > JUnit 5 extension [6]. Then, we replace the ContainerAwareTestSupport
> (and
> > similar classes from other camel-testcontainer modules) with
> > CamelTestSupport (or the spring based one) as it is not needed anymore.
> >
> > The next step is to make sure that addresses (URLs, hostnames, ports,
> etc)
> > and resources (usernames, passwords, tokens, etc) referenced during the
> > test execution, use the test-infra services. This may differ according to
> > each service. Replacing the call to get the service URL [7] with the one
> > provided by the test infra service [8] is a good example of this.
> >
> > This was the bulk of the work for the Camel code base.
> >
> > There are a few other cases which may require extra attention/work. They
> > were not so common, but to highlight:
> >
> > - It may be necessary to adjust the variables used in simple language [9]
> > so that they match the property format used in the test infra service
> [10]
> > (as was the case for camel-consul).
> > - There are some cases where the container instance requires extra
> > customization [11]. The code still benefits from the test-infra approach,
> > but this may be very specific to the test scenario [12] .
> >
> > All in all, it's not a significantly complicated task but it's not a
> > drop-in replacement either.
> >
> > I am linking here to the PR which I submitted for the camel-nats
> conversion
> > [13] just in case I missed anything. At first sight it may look more
> > complicated than what I said, but that's because it also contains the
> > test-infra code for Nats.
> >
> > 1.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.6.0/components/camel-nats/src/test/java/org/apache/camel/component/nats/NatsTestSupport.java
> > 2.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.7.0/components/camel-nats/src/test/java/org/apache/camel/component/nats/NatsTestSupport.java
> > 3.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.6.0/components/camel-nats/pom.xml#L59-L63
> > 4.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.7.0/components/camel-nats/pom.xml#L61-L75
> > 5.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.6.0/components/camel-nats/src/test/java/org/apache/camel/component/nats/NatsTestSupport.java#L24-L45
> > 6.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.7.0/components/camel-nats/src/test/java/org/apache/camel/component/nats/NatsTestSupport.java#L25-L27
> > 7.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.6.0/components/camel-nats/src/test/java/org/apache/camel/component/nats/NatsAuthConsumerLoadTest.java#L38
> > 8.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.7.0/components/camel-nats/src/test/java/org/apache/camel/component/nats/NatsAuthConsumerLoadTest.java#L38
> > 9.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.6.0/components/camel-consul/src/test/resources/org/apache/camel/component/consul/cloud/SpringConsulRibbonServiceCallRouteTest.xml#L36
> > 10.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.7.0/components/camel-consul/src/test/resources/org/apache/camel/component/consul/cloud/SpringConsulRibbonServiceCallRouteTest.xml#L36
> > 11.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.6.0/components/camel-pg-replication-slot/src/test/java/org/apache/camel/component/pg/replication/slot/integration/PgReplicationTestSupport.java#L31
> > 12.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/camel-3.7.0/components/camel-pg-replication-slot/src/test/java/org/apache/camel/component/pg/replication/slot/integration/PgReplicationTestSupport.java#L31
> > 13. https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/4706/files
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 10:36 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Otavia
> > >
> > > Great work.
> > >
> > > Can you maybe tell a bit about what if an end user have used
> > > camel-testcontainers-junit5 to do his/her own container testing with
> > > Camel (for example to use their own container image, or for example a
> > > database container or something). How would they do that today with
> > > the test infra?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 9:37 AM Otavio Rodolfo Piske
> > > <angusyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > as of 3.7.x, all the test infrastructure code that we had was
> converted
> > > to
> > > > use the test-infra modules.
> > > >
> > > > This brings several benefits for in terms of maintenance for the test
> > > code:
> > > > - we can share more easily, among the sub-projects, the code handling
> > the
> > > > test infrastructure. For example: setting up and running message
> > brokers,
> > > > databases, cloud simulation containers, etc.
> > > > - we "outsource" the management of the resources to JUnit 5 and let
> it
> > > > handle the lifecycle, setup, etc ... thus simplifying the test code.
> > > > - we can separate the interface from implementation. This allows us
> and
> > > > colleagues running and testing the Camel code to run integration and
> > > > interoperability tests more easily. For example, it makes it possible
> > to
> > > > run the same tests against remote instances of the said
> infrastructure.
> > > > This is very handy for AWS tests, for example, where we can switch to
> > run
> > > > the tests from Localstack containers to an actual AWS instance by
> > simply
> > > > adjusting the test parameters. It still uses testcontainers under the
> > > hood,
> > > > but it is abstracted from the test code.
> > > >
> > > > As result of this migration, the code in the following components has
> > > > become unused within Camel:
> > > > - camel-testcontainers
> > > > - camel-testcontainers-junit5
> > > > - camel-testcontainers-spring
> > > > - camel-testcontainers-spring-junit5
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to propose deprecating these components, starting with 3.8
> and
> > > > then removing them before we release the next LTS.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I'd like to gather feedback from the community about usage
> > of
> > > > those modules, thoughts on the idea and if any roadblock remains.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards
> > > > --
> > > > Otavio R. Piske
> > > > http://orpiske.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Claus Ibsen
> > > -----------------
> > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Otavio R. Piske
> > http://orpiske.net
> >
>


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