Well done Peter. There are spies even in maven those days... And here it
helps well :)

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 4:55 PM Peter Palaga <ppal...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, Alex and Babak!
>
> I have found a way how -Pfastinstall could be handled as an alias of
> -Dquickly: https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/10483
> Hope that solution is good enough to meet your needs?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> -- Peter
>
> On 23/06/2023 14:48, Babak Vahdat wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 23 Jun 2023, at 14:27, Alexandre Gallice <aldettin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Beyond bisect scripts, other developers could be impacted... it's a bit
> >> like deprecating a profile.
> >> For the sake of smooth transition, I wonder if it would be possible to
> have
> >> something like the fastinstall profile setting -Dquickly and printing a
> >> message that fastinstall might be possibly removed in the future.
> >>
> >> Alex
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Yeah as that Maven profile has been exposed to the users as well since
> ages, so removing it (and asking them to adjust their settings.xml to
> achieve the same) doesn’t sound much “Newcomer friendly”:
> >
> >
> https://camel.apache.org/manual/building.html#_a_quick_build_without_running_tests
> <
> https://camel.apache.org/manual/building.html#_a_quick_build_without_running_tests
> >
> >
> > And thanks Peter a lot for his awesome work on his PR!
> >
> > --
> > Babak
> >
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:47 AM Otavio Rodolfo Piske <
> angusyo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So, the primary reason I'd like to keep the fastinstall profile is
> because
> >>> I bisect Camel often to find which commit introduced a certain bug,
> test
> >>> failure or behavior. If we remove this profile, then I would have to
> adjust
> >>> my bisect script so that in newer versions it uses "mvn -Dquickly" and
> in
> >>> versions before this patch it would use "mvn -Pfastinstall" ... and I
> would
> >>> have to, somehow, detect from when to start using one or the other (I
> think
> >>> it would be difficult).
> >>>
> >>> I haven't thought about adding the profile to my user's settings.xml
> file,
> >>> but maybe that would do the trick ... I'll give it a try.
> >>>
> >>> Regardless of that, the lack of fastinstall profile is not a blocker
> from
> >>> my end. I think this is a good improvement.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:30 AM Peter Palaga <ppal...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 23/06/2023 09:38, Otavio Rodolfo Piske wrote:
> >>>>> +1 from me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All in all I think this is a good thing. Our build takes _way_ too
> >>> long,
> >>>> so
> >>>>> any effort that can reduce this time is welcome. Also, I like that
> this
> >>>>> would make the build similar to CEQ. Ideally, in the future, we could
> >>>> also
> >>>>> apply the same pattern to both CSB and CKC, so that we have an
> uniform
> >>>>> build process across the board.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That said, I have one (hopefully) simple request* in all of this: for
> >>> us
> >>>> to
> >>>>> retain the fastinstall profile. The reason for me asking this is
> >>> because
> >>>> it
> >>>>> makes my bisect scripts much easier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Obs.: as far as I can tell, the PR does not remove the fastinstall
> >>>>> profile, so this is more like "just to be sure".
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the feedback, Otavio! I actually wanted to remove the
> >>>> fastinstall profile altogether but now I see there are some leftovers.
> >>>> You mean you want to keep the fastinstall profile as it was with all
> >>>> those skip properties? I am open to that, but still, I wonder whether
> >>>> defining fastinstall in your settings.xml would not be a good enough
> >>>> solution too?
> >>>>
> >>>> -- P
> >>>>
> >>>>> Great work, Peter ... I'm hoping to see these changes merged.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 1:00 AM Peter Palaga <ppal...@redhat.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In PR https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/10476 I tried to make
> some
> >>>>>> changes to improve ergonomics and reproducibility.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The first idea is to auto-fix formatting issues instead of
> outputting
> >>>>>> error messages. I.e. rather than using Checkstyle plugin that is not
> >>>>>> able to fix even basic violations of its policies,
> >>> maven-license-plugin,
> >>>>>> maven-formatter-plugin and maven-impsort-plugin are enabled by
> default
> >>>>>> to format the sources in the desired way without contributors having
> >>> to
> >>>>>> configure their IDEs or anything else manually. There are some more
> >>>>>> details in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19461
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My second goal was to make the fast build (done from a state that
> >>> passed
> >>>>>> the CI) as fast as possible by removing the unessential Maven mojos
> >>> from
> >>>>>> the Maven execution plan altogether. We use this since longer in
> Camel
> >>>>>> Quarkus and it is explained in detail in this blog:
> >>>>>>
> >>> https://peter.palaga.org/2020/10/29/skipping-maven-mojos-properly.html
> >>>>>> The new mechanism is slightly different from how our original
> >>>>>> `fastinstall` profile worked. `fastinstall` was disabling mojos by
> >>>>>> defining their skip properties and it was activated simply by
> passing
> >>>>>> `-Pfastinstall`. The new fast build does something different: it
> >>>>>> disables the default `full` profile by passing a property. Because
> the
> >>>>>> invocation had to change from -P to -D I dared to use the same
> >>> property
> >>>>>> name as we use in Camel Quarkus: `-Dquickly` I hope that's fine for
> >>>>>> everybody. See also
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19466
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On my machine with 32 virtual threads, invoking `mvnd clean install
> >>>>>> -Dquickly` takes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * 1st build: 1m 21s
> >>>>>> * 2nd build: 1m 10s
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The subsequent builds are slower. I have not investigated why, it is
> >>>>>> perhaps because of garbage collection or some plugin might be
> leaking
> >>>>>> memory.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The third thing is not having the Apache Snapshots Maven repository
> >>>>>> enabled by default for the sake of reproducibility locally and on
> CI.
> >>>>>> It is still present in the `apache-snapshots` profile.
> >>>>>> There are more details in
> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-19465
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any feedback is welcome.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Otavio R. Piske
> >>> http://orpiske.net
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>

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