> So 3.11 after 3.10, then move on to 3.11.x further bug fix releases?
+1

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Aleksey Yeschenko <alek...@apache.org> wrote:
> That’s a good point.
>
> So 3.11 after 3.10, then move on to 3.11.x further bug fix releases?
>
> +1 to that.
>
> --
> AY
>
> On 10 January 2017 at 17:22:09, Michael Shuler (mich...@pbandjelly.org) wrote:
>
> I had the same thought. 3.10 is the tick, so a 3.11 bugfix tock follows
> the intended final fix release for closing out tick-tock. Throwing a
> 3.10.1 out there would add more user confusion and would be the exact
> same contents as a 3.11 release versioned package set anyway.
>
> --
> Michael
>
> On 01/10/2017 11:18 AM, Josh McKenzie wrote:
>> | If someone tries to upgrade 3.10 to whatever 4.0 ends up being I
>> think they will hit the wrong answer bug. So I would advocate for
>> having the fix brought
>> into 3.10, but it was broken in 3.9 as well.
>>
>> Seems like we'd just release that as 3.10.1 (instead of 3.11) and just
>> tell people "you can upgrade to 4.0 w/latest version of 3.10". This
>> does violate the "even releases features, odd releases bugfix", so
>> maybe a 3.11 as final 3.X line would help keep that consistent?
>>
>> I'd rather not open the can of worms of back-porting this to 3.9 as
>> well to hold to our claim of "any 3.X can go to 4.0".
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Ariel Weisberg <ar...@weisberg.ws> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The upgrade tests are tricky because they upgrade from an existing
>>> release to a current release. The bug is in 3.9 and won't be fixed until
>>> 3.11 because the test checks out and builds 3.9 right now. 3.10 doesn't
>>> include the commit that fixes the issue so it will fail after 3.10 is
>>> released and the test is updated to check out 3.10.
>>>
>>>
>>> We claim to support upgrade from any 3.x version to 4.0. If someone
>>> tries to upgrade 3.10 to whatever 4.0 ends up being I think they will
>>> hit the wrong answer bug. So I would advocate for having the fix brought
>>> into 3.10, but it was broken in 3.9 as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Some of the tests fail because trunk complains of unreadable stables and
>>> I suspect that isn't a bug it's just something that is no longer
>>> supported due to thrift removal, but I haven't fixed those yet. Those
>>> are probably issues with trunk or the tests.
>>>
>>>
>>> Others fail for reasons I haven't triaged yet. I'm struggling with my
>>> own issues getting the tests to run locally.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ariel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Nate McCall wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> I concede it would be fine to do it gradually. Once the pace of
>>>>> issues
>>>>> introduced by new development is beaten by the pace at which
>>>>> they are
>>>>> addressed I think things will go well.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> So from Michael's JIRA query:
>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-12617?jql=project%20%3D%20CASSANDRA%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.10%20AND%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Are we good for 3.10 after we get those cleaned up?
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Ariel, you made reference to:
>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/commit/c612cd8d7dbd24888c216ad53f974686b88dd601
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Do we need to re-open an issue to have this applied to 3.10 and add it
>>>> to the above list?
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Josh McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Sankalp's proposal of us progressively tightening up our standards
>>>>>> allows
>>>>>> us to get code out the door and regain some lost momentum on
>>>>>> the 3.10
>>>>>> release failures and blocking, and gives us time as a community to
>>>>>> adjust
>>>>>> our behavior without the burden of an ever-later slipped release
>>>>>> hanging
>>>>>> over our heads. There's plenty of bugfixes in the 3.X line; the
>>>>>> more time
>>>>>> people can have to kick the tires on that code, the more things
>>>>>> we can
>>>>>> find
>>>
>>>>>> and the better future releases will be.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> +1 On gradually moving to this. Dropping releases with huge change
>>>
>>>> lists has never gone well for us in the past.
>>>
>>>
>

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