We can take a look on 1st June how things are then decide if we want to freeze it and whats in and whats out.
On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Ariel Weisberg <ar...@weisberg.ws> wrote: > Hi, > > +1 to having a feature freeze date. June 1st is earlier than I would have > picked. > > Ariel > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Josh McKenzie wrote: > > +1 here for June 1. > > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Jason Brown <jasedbr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Blake Eggleston <beggles...@apple.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > On 4/4/18, 5:48 PM, "Jeff Jirsa" <jji...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Earlier than I’d have personally picked, but I’m +1 too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jeff Jirsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Top-posting as I think this summary is on point - thanks, > Scott! > > > (And > > > > > great to have you back, btw). > > > > > > > > > > It feels to me like we are coalescing on two points: > > > > > 1. June 1 as a freeze for alpha > > > > > 2. "Stable" is the new "Exciting" (and the testing and > dogfooding > > > > > implied by such before a GA) > > > > > > > > > > How do folks feel about the above points? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Re-raising a point made earlier in the thread by Jeff and > affirmed > > > > by Josh: > > > > >> > > > > >> ––– > > > > >> Jeff: > > > > >>>> A hard date for a feature freeze makes sense, a hard date > for a > > > > release > > > > >>>> does not. > > > > >> > > > > >> Josh: > > > > >>> Strongly agree. We should also collectively define what > "Done" > > > > looks like > > > > >>> post freeze so we don't end up in bike-shedding hell like we > have > > > > in the > > > > >>> past. > > > > >> ––– > > > > >> > > > > >> Another way of saying this: ensuring that the 4.0 release is > of > > > > high quality is more important than cutting the release on a specific > > > date. > > > > >> > > > > >> If we adopt Sylvain's suggestion of freezing features on a > > > "feature > > > > complete" date (modulo a "definition of done" as Josh suggested), > that > > > will > > > > help us align toward the polish, performance work, and dog-fooding > needed > > > > to feel great about shipping 4.0. It's a good time to start thinking > > > about > > > > the approaches to testing, profiling, and dog-fooding various > > > contributors > > > > will want to take on before release. > > > > >> > > > > >> I love how Ben put it: > > > > >> > > > > >>> An "exciting" 4.0 release to me is one that is stable and > usable > > > > >>> with no perf regressions on day 1 and includes some of the > big > > > > >>> internal changes mentioned previously. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> This will set the community up well for some awesome and > exciting > > > > >>> stuff that will still be in the pipeline if it doesn't make > it to > > > > 4.0. > > > > >> > > > > >> That sounds great to me, too. > > > > >> > > > > >> – Scott > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > --------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > --------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >