Hi,

why can't this be achieved by batches? Do I miss something fundamental
here? Batches may write to different tables right ... I am just
missing the point of using triggers for this.

I add specifics to Brian's first paragraph, this is covered by
CASSANDRA-13985 -
https://github.com/apache/cassandra/commit/54de771e643e9cc64d1f5dd28b5de8a9a91a219e
This will be firstly introduced in 4.0.

Stefan

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 13:49, Brian Hess <brianmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> One challenge to be aware of is that when you use multiple data centers, the 
> users can make changes in either data center and those changes will propagate 
> to the other data center. That is, there is no concept of a “read-only data 
> center” in Cassandra. That may be fine, but some organizations want to grant 
> access to the data for analytics but don’t want those teams to be able to 
> modify the original data. You can, in some cases, restrict the write access 
> through user/role permissions (the analytics team only has read access to 
> that table), but that may not work depending on your use case (but it usually 
> does work).
>
> One comment from Benjamin’s comment below. There is one scenario where the 
> Trigger could guarantee the data makes it to both tables, specifically if 
> both tables reside in the same keyspace and have the same partition key(s). 
> Mutations in the same keyspace on tables that have the same partition key are 
> internally to Cassandra merged into a single internal Mutation and always 
> applied atomically. So, if you had an exactly same schema for your second 
> table and it resides in the same keyspace (mytable and mytable_analytics, 
> say, both in mykeyspace) your trigger could duplicate the mutation to the 
> source table to be an exact copy into the second table and Cassandra will 
> apply these both atomically (they both succeed or they both fail - never just 
> one). In this scenario, the analytics team could modify data in the second 
> table and not effect the data in the source table.
>
> ---->Brian
>
> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 7:38 AM, pauloricardomg <pauloricard...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > To extend Paul's point, datacenters in cassandra are logical concepts which
> > may be useful for your use case and do not necessarily need to be
> > represented by physical data centers.
> >
> > The presentation mentioned by Andrew, while helpful, covers some concepts
> > which are specific to Hadoop and may be outdated in more recent versions of
> > Cassandra.
> >
> > I'd recommend two more recent presentations on the multi-DC topic:
> > -
> > https://www.slideshare.net/DataStax/apache-cassandra-multidatacenter-essentials-julien-anguenot-iland-internet-solutions-c-summit-2016
> > -
> > https://www.slideshare.net/DataStax/operations-consistency-failover-for-multidc-clusters-alexander-dejanovski-the-last-pickle-cassandra-summit-2016
> >
> > Finally, if you have any more questions on this I'd recommend you send them
> > to the u...@cassandra.apache.org mailing list as this mailing list (
> > dev@cassandra.apache.org) is related to the project development of
> > Cassandra.
> >
> >> Em ter., 15 de dez. de 2020 às 09:28, Greg Oliver
> >> <gol...@microsoft.com.invalid> escreveu:
> >>
> >> Can't see it in the email. What's the slide #?
> >>
> >> From: Andrew Cobley (Staff) <a.e.cob...@dundee.ac.uk>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 12:26 PM
> >> To: dev@cassandra.apache.org
> >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Triggers
> >>
> >> Yes that's right.  I remember this illustration:
> >>
> >> [Diagram  Description automatically generated]
> >>
> >>
> >> From this presentation:
> >>
> >> https://www.slideshare.net/rastrick/presentation-12982302<
> >> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.slideshare.net%2Frastrick%2Fpresentation-12982302&data=04%7C01%7Cgolive%40microsoft.com%7Cb752cef4803d4deae42b08d8a0f4acd5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637436320031889415%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=itM2Kb7eQqOSPO09fGiuHXJPVjW6C51qXCMYq985WaE%3D&reserved=0
> >>>
> >>
> >> Might help.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy Cobley
> >> Senior Lecturer, Program Director Data Science and Data Engineering MSc
> >> School of Science and Engineering, University of Dundee
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> >>
> >>
> >> From: Paul Chandler <p...@redshots.com<mailto:p...@redshots.com>>
> >> Date: Tuesday, 15 December 2020 at 12:16
> >> To: dev@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org> <
> >> dev@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org>>
> >> Subject: Re: Triggers
> >> Hi Greg,
> >>
> >> Andy is talking about Cassandra datacenters, which can easily be co
> >> located in the same physical datacenter.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>> On 15 Dec 2020, at 12:10, Greg Oliver <gol...@microsoft.com.INVALID
> >> <mailto:gol...@microsoft.com.INVALID>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That's great in theory, but what if your customer is a national
> >> government (they require their data to remain within their borders) and
> >> there aren't enough DC's in nation to support multiple DC data 
> >> distribution?
> >>>
> >>> To get the throughput needed (say - if the government announces a new
> >> program and 30M people try to sign up at the same time) CQRS seems a likely
> >> part of the solution.
> >>>
> >>> With Cassandra (and I'm definitely new to it), as I learn more it looks
> >> like a set of materialized views might be a way to achieve the goal.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> From: Andrew Cobley (Staff) <a.e.cob...@dundee.ac.uk<mailto:
> >> a.e.cob...@dundee.ac.uk>>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:57 AM
> >>> To: dev@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org>
> >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Triggers
> >>>
> >>> I may be wrong, but isn't the correct pattern for this to use two data
> >> centres?  You write to one data centre, replicate to the other and read
> >> from that one.  Or am misunderstanding ?
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andy Cobley
> >>> Senior Lecturer, Program Director Data Science and Data Engineering MSc
> >>> School of Science and Engineering, University of Dundee
> >>> +44 (0)1382 385078 (Not at present) | a.e.cob...@dundee.ac.uk<mailto:
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> >>> From: Benjamin Lerer <benjamin.le...@datastax.com<mailto:
> >> benjamin.le...@datastax.com<mailto:benjamin.le...@datastax.com%
> >> 3cmailto:benjamin.le...@datastax.com>>>
> >>> Date: Tuesday, 15 December 2020 at 11:50
> >>> To: dev@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:
> >> dev@cassandra.apache.org%3cmailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org>> <
> >> dev@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:
> >> dev@cassandra.apache.org%3cmailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org>>>
> >>> Subject: Re: Triggers
> >>> Hi Greg,
> >>>
> >>> Things are more tricky in an eventually consistent distributed system
> >> than
> >>> they are in a relational database. Even if the C* triggers were perfect
> >>> (and they are not) and your write and read tables were exactly the same,
> >>> there is no guarantee that all the updates created by the trigger from
> >> the
> >>> original mutations will be successfully delivered to your other table and
> >>> there are no entropy mechanisms to repair those problems. Overtime the
> >> data
> >>> in your write and read tables will just start to diverge.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:02 PM Greg Oliver <gol...@microsoft.com.invalid
> >> <mailto:gol...@microsoft.com.invalid<mailto:gol...@microsoft.com.invalid%
> >> 3cmailto:gol...@microsoft.com.invalid>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> My customer wants to use Cassandra together with the CQRS pattern. This
> >> is
> >>>> to say, they want to separate reads and writes to different tables,
> >>>> potentially in different keyspace or database.
> >>>>
> >>>> In my experience with relational databases I would set up a trigger on
> >> the
> >>>> "write" table such that on new row & update row events, a similar row
> >> would
> >>>> be inserted into the "read" table.
> >>>>
> >>>> I found a few examples of setting up a trigger on a Cassandra table and
> >>>> have replicated that on my system. But in reading the various Stack
> >>>> Overflow posts on the topic a persistent message saying "don't do it
> >> unless
> >>>> you really know what you're doing" pops up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why? What are the cases for and against using triggers in Cassandra?
> >> What
> >>>> are the edge cases to avoid? What is the happy path?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Greg
> >>>>
> >>>
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