I hear you. Not trying to shoehorn a change in w/CEP-12, just thinking through 
"how complex should it be to rip out the chronicle format, insert some other 
well defined and well known, and handle log rolling ourselves". My preference 
(which I didn't indicate earlier) would be to have that done independently.

There a reason we can't move forward with CEP-12 w/out addressing the chronicle 
stuff? i.e.
> I would like to have this resolved because there is CEP-12 I plan to deliver 
> and I hit this and I do not want to base that work on something we might 
> eventually abandon.
Why would CEP-12 be heavily coupled with chronicle? I would assume you'd be 
able to make light use of the existing logging + log rolling, and then someone 
else could come along and easily rip out chronicle and the rolling and add in a 
different one with minimal code changes?

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, at 9:15 AM, Štefan Miklošovič wrote:
> I don't understand why CEP-12 should be a vehicle for introducing changes 
> like that. That is something totally unrelated. I am not going to be the one 
> to implement anything beyond CEP-12 and I am not the one who is going to 
> replace it either so if we make it a hard requirement for CEP-12 then CEP-12 
> as it is will never be introduced. Just want to be clear about that.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 3:09 PM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:55 AM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd strongly support either rolling the format change into the CEP-12 
>> > proposal or having another CEP for introducing protobuf, spark, etc - some 
>> > kind of more broadly adopted format, and removing chronicle from our stack.
>> 
>> +1, I too would strongly support an open format and removing chronicle.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Brandon

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