I don’t really have an opinion on re-writing the existing one vs closing
that and making a new one.
But I do think we should have some CEP describing the "1.0 shippable
version" of the side car that is being proposed, then it can have a VOTE
thread, and there will be no issues voting the release meets the CEP once
it is ready.

-Jeremiah

On Oct 1, 2024 at 7:58:41 AM, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:

> CEP-1 is still completely relevant and we could send an update
>
> CEP-1 feels really fat compared to all our other CEP's. When you need a
> table to enumerate all the subsets of things you're going to do with
> something so you can keep track of progress... it might be too large. :D
>
> If we think we can navigate that, I definitely won't stand in the way. But
> given that the people actively working on it aren't the original authors
> and the shepherd's inactive, ISTM a reboot would be cleaner.
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
>
> CEP-1 is still completely relevant and we could send an update but as it
> stands right now we’ve made a ton of progress and would like to focus on
> getting to a release so it’s real for the community.
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 5:31 PM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> There are two easy choices.
>
> 1 - Re-furbish CEP-1 and start a [DISCUSS] thread
> 2 - Close out CEP-1 and Propose something fresh and start a [DISCUSS]
> Thread on that.
>
> Do you think there is enough in CEP-1 to keep moving with or is it
> completely wrong?
>
> Patrick
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 4:53 PM Francisco Guerrero <fran...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I feel I need to update the status of CEP-1 as it currently stands.
> For context, the Cassandra Sidecar project has had a steady flow of
> contributions in the past couple of years. And there is a steady stream
> of upcoming contributions, i.e live migration (CEP-40), CDC (CEP-44),
> and many others. However, I believe we need to address one issue
> with CEP-1; and that is its scope.
> The scope of CEP-1 is too broad, and I would like to propose either
> closing on CEP-1 or rescoping it. We have a Sidecar now, it's part of
> the foundation, and AFAIK we've pretty much satisfied the 2 goals of
> CEP-1 which are listed as "extensible and passes the curl test" and
> "provides basic but essential and useful functionality".
> CEP-1 was discussed and consensus was achieved in 2018 after
> a lot of discussion[4]. CEP-1 contributed to the foundation of the CEP
> process. Several JIRAs have been opened and active contribution is
> happening in the subproject.
> We are getting close to proposing the first release of Sidecar, pending
> some trivial fixes needed in the configuration and build
> processes[1][2][3];
> as well as CASSANDRASC-141[5] which will bring authn/authz into Sidecar.
> Once
> we close on CASSANDRASC-141, Sidecar will be ready for the 1.0 release.
> Any new major feature to Sidecar would go through the regular CEP process.
> Cassandra’s Sidecar usage is not restricted to the Analytics library,
> however
> it does support this use case at the moment. I will not touch on vnode
> support in Cassandra Analytics as it deserves its own separate discussion.
> We're excited to invite you to a talk on Cassandra Sidecar at the Community
> Over Code next week. Join us as we explore the current features and share
> what’s on the horizon for Sidecar.
>
> Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this proposal.
> Best,
> ⁃ Francisco
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRASC-120
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRASC-121
> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRASC-122
> [4] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xyg8n5hkt7xrfqv48k91tx1jwp0pvcpw
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRASC-141
>
>
>
>

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