I finally got around to playing around with Paulo's 5.0 backport branch as
well and added some review feedback.  I agree with Jaydeep that it looks
great, nice work Paulo!

The write up on the PR in NEWS.txt (
https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/4558/changes#diff-95c20d744db732cdbca24c3e0406c10005ecf7fe8b5719c2fdf2b8af3fcedc79)
does a great job describing how to opt into the feature and how it
mitigates any risk.  I'm hopeful that the approach taken here makes a
giving a +1 to a possible backport vote an easier choice for folks!

Thanks!
Andy

On Sun, Feb 8, 2026 at 8:03 PM Jaydeep Chovatia <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I have looked at the PR. Overall, it looks great. Added a few comments.
>
> Jaydeep
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 8:20 PM Jaydeep Chovatia <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I will take a look at it. Happy to see AutoRepair in 5.0.
>> Thank you for the patch, Paulo!
>>
>> Jaydeep
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 3:27 PM Tolbert, Andy <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be happy to take a look at reviewing this as well as I would be
>>> excited to see Auto Repair in 5.0.  Thank you for the patch, Paulo!
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 5:13 PM Paulo Motta <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have submitted a patch porting AutoRepair to 5.0 on
>>>> CASSANDRA-21138[1] and tagged Jaydeep Chovatia for review. I would greatly
>>>> appreciate other sets of eyes, especially those involved with the original
>>>> CEP-37 effort.
>>>>
>>>> The feature is disabled by default and no schema changes are made
>>>> unless a JVM flag is enabled to reduce upgrade risk to users who do not
>>>> intend to enable this feature.
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns about having
>>>> this merged in 5.0.
>>>>
>>>> [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-21138
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 8:34 PM Jaydeep Chovatia <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sure, I am happy to review it whenever it's ready, Paulo. Please let
>>>>> me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jaydeep
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 8:32 AM Paulo Motta <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Scott. I don't think we should backport this to 4.1 due
>>>>>> to the compatibility issues raised plus this branch has already been
>>>>>> stabilized for a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think backporting auto-repair to 5.0 would be more appropriate as
>>>>>> it would encourage users to adopt this version and get closer to trunk,
>>>>>> rather than encouraging users to stick to an older version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I decided to take a stab at backporting auto-repair +
>>>>>> additional fixes to 5.0 on this preliminary PR:
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/4558
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not ready for review yet since I need to gate the schema changes
>>>>>> under a feature flag, but I think I can get it ready by the end of week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there's no opposition against shipping this in 5.0 maybe I can
>>>>>> create a JIRA and have Jaydeep review it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 11:15 AM C. Scott Andreas <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the purpose of a quick straw poll, I’m not opposed to
>>>>>>> backporting to 5.x, but I don’t support backporting to 4.x-series 
>>>>>>> releases
>>>>>>> for the compatibility and upgrade complexity reasons previously 
>>>>>>> discussed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On Jan 12, 2026, at 1:27 AM, Štefan Miklošovič <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Hi everybody,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I want to refresh this thread after the holidays. Is there an
>>>>>>> > agreement we reached? Is everybody on board with backporting to
>>>>>>> 4.1+?
>>>>>>> > How are we going to do this concretely? I guess Jaydeep would be
>>>>>>> > involved in the backporting as he just said. I honestly do not
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> > there is anybody else better suited to make it happen and your
>>>>>>> > willingness to do that is really appreciated.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Regards
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 5:38 AM Jaydeep Chovatia
>>>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> FYI—regardless of the outcome, you can count on me to port CEP-37
>>>>>>> in whatever form the community agrees on. As mentioned earlier, I’m 
>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>> maintaining a private 4.1.6 fork (
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/3367).
>>>>>>> >> Thank you!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Jaydeep
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 7:43 AM Micah Green <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> I'm really interested in this thread, but don't see an update on
>>>>>>> where we landed in terms of backporting and also the amount of work
>>>>>>> involved.  I'm all for backporting to 5.x minimally!  I'm planning our 
>>>>>>> 2026
>>>>>>> work and where this discussion goes will really help me optimally plan,
>>>>>>> which is why I'm asking.
>>>>>>> >>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 4:44 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Seems like the 4.1 branch would still require some work to
>>>>>>> cover everything raised on this thread? Have anyone evaluated how much 
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> that can be?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I agree porting to 4.1, but not 4.0 is kind of weird. Then
>>>>>>> probably we better have it only in 5.0?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Do people think it makes sense to create some kind of user
>>>>>>> survey around this work, too? Posted in @user
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 at 9:00, Josh McKenzie <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Otherwise it feels weird backporting to 4.1 but not 4.0, and
>>>>>>> backporting to both would increase the risk and maintenance burden.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> It would but by how much?
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> 2 things jump out to me re: risk and maintenance:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Risk: We kind of need to tackle the "version straddle w/schema
>>>>>>> table diffs is currently Bad and makes rollbacks manual and brittle"
>>>>>>> broadly; this feature is just one more example of that though it's a 
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> exacerbated by discussing doing something like this in a patch release. 
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> ergonomics of the "one-way-door without a human manually deleting 
>>>>>>> columns"
>>>>>>> part holds true cross-MAJOR too. "Progress" here seems like it's either 
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> handle this on a case-by-case basis w/flags to remove those schema 
>>>>>>> entries
>>>>>>> on rollback (kinda ew), or more durably with an elegant solution in the
>>>>>>> long term, i.e. capabilities framework, though that doesn't answer the 
>>>>>>> "we
>>>>>>> explode when schemas don't match" bit.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Maintenance: maintaining this across 4 branches is clearly
>>>>>>> more toil than across 2.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> I'm personally kind of keen for us to tackle that Risk bit;
>>>>>>> I'd like all of us to be able to more freely consider making changes to
>>>>>>> schema tables w/out the complexity burden we have right now and the
>>>>>>> operator toil and risk that comes along with it.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> The maintenance toil bit - I have less opinions on. Kind of
>>>>>>> depends on how many people are on 4.0/4.1 right now that we'd expect to 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> on 4.1 for another year until 7.0 hits and whether we think they'd 
>>>>>>> benefit
>>>>>>> from the feature (and contribute to bettering it) during that year I 
>>>>>>> guess.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2025, at 5:57 PM, Paulo Motta wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Otherwise it feels weird backporting to 4.1 but not 4.0, and
>>>>>>> backporting to both would increase the risk and maintenance burden.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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