On 14/08/2007, at 4:11 AM, Kevin Menard wrote:
Since this is a bit of a big change for us, and Ari had expressed someconcern, I'd like to just take a vote to ensure this is the direction we areheading.
I certainly see the benefit in the longer term, but I wonder what the purpose of this change is right now half way through the 3.0 development process. Personally I'd like to see 3.0 out as soon as possible, since it has been a long time since the last stable new feature release (1.2) and I think releases help keep up the perceived momentum of the project.
Is the plan for 3.0 to not release until it has full JPA compliance? If so, a release this year seems unlikely.
Will moving to JDK 5 be a change in label only, or will we actually go in and implement generics throughout all the classes, possibly requiring some API changes along the way to do it right? Will this then add 3-6 months to the release of 3.0 while the changes are ironed out? Are there other JDK 5 features we desperately want to use? I know that the Swing improvements could make the modeler nicer, but that too requires a whole bunch of work. I've just done a lot of work putting generics into my major project, and it isn't always as simple as pressing the 'add generics to this class...' button in Eclipse.
* generics * swing improvements * nicer for loop (but very minor functional change or speed improvement) * other little thingsSo my hesitation is to do with feature creep. If moving to 1.5 adds to the release schedule considerably, then I'm -1.
Sorry to sidetrack this vote with questions, but I'd like to be clear about the benefits/costs of this decision.
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