Hi
Thank you for hints, they are useful. I'll try to use some of them, but my main concern is to test the client in ROP setup. As Mike and Tore mentioned, there are two levels of testing junit and integration test. Testing ROP application brings another dimension, with need to test client and server separately and together. Right now it is impossible to test client without running a server, and in our case if we want the client to connect we need to fake login process, start some side services etc. We have succeeded with those tests, but they are ugly and very limited.

About testing MockDAO, or server side: Mike you mention that you use interfaces to define entities, and than implement that interface in MockEntities. I don't know if I get you right, but than you are not testing code in your Entity, but the implementation in the mocked-up one. I cannot see how this might work for testing lifecycle events or complex validation.

In my current setup i subclass the entity with mockupentity and just by overriding getObjectId I have an almost fully working entity. The problem I have is that I cannot make them able to set relationships. I get a nullpointer in setReverseRelationship. I was trying to mock the entityresolver based on cayenne junit tests, but those tests subclass private classes, so I cannot use this approach. How could I overcome that ?

I still think that cayenne could include a simplified junit testing API for different deployment options ("classic cayenne", ROP, web)

Thanks
Marcin


On 07/09/2007, at 5:58 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:

Hmm.   I got rid of the cleanup threads easily enough, but it didn't
really affect the memory usage.   That's what I get for not using a
profiler.    At least things are easier to read in the debugger
without all of those extra threads :-)

On 9/6/07, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why do you want all of that mocking stuff?

Because what you described is an integration test, not a unit test :-)

I have both -- the integration tests running against an in-memory
hsqldb instance and unit tests running without needing to hit a
database.   However, running my integration tests still takes around
15 minutes.

Configuring efficient integration tests is much more tricky.  You
either recreate everything which makes things take another order of
magnitude to run, or you try to "clean up" the important record tables
in setup.

Configuring a unit test using mock objects is much faster -- you just
configure your MockDAO to respond to expected method calls and poll it
afterward to see if the expected method calls were called correctly.

My other issue with integration tests is that I'm using Cayenne 1.1.4,
and every setup() call to initialize Configuration creates a new
PoolManagerCleanup thread which won't time out for 60 seconds.   That
makes my integration tests memory intensive -- currently about 1.4Gb
of memory is required to run some 650+ tests.   I just spent a couple
of hours trying to figure out a nicer way to deal with this, but I
haven't done so yet.   I probably will need to subclass
DriverDataSourceFactory and PoolManager.

On 9/6/07, Tore Halset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello.

My junit setup creates a database with all its tables and basic
schema and then all of the cayenne-related tests operate on that
temporary db. It is pretty much like cayenne junit tests before the
move to maven, but a bit simpler. The junit tests are started when a
developer wants to and periodically on our development server. It
tests everything with both PostgreSQL and Derby.

Why do you want all of that mocking stuff?

  - Tore.

On Sep 5, 2007, at 17:10, Mike Kienenberger wrote:

There's a few different ways to look at this.

It's true that Cayenne doesn't easily support application unit
testing.

However, I'm not sure it's entirely appropriate to do so.

What I do is use a DAO pattern for my database operations.   Then I
mock up a DAO rather than the entire database layer. It's far easier
to mock up "myTestingDAO.findUserByUserName()" than to mock up
SelectQuery, DataNode, DataMap, DataContext, etc.

I haven't quite reached this point in all of my projects, but my goal is to generate Interfaces for each of my Entities. If I have a User
entity, then I create a User interface and use that exclusively
outside of my DAO.   The DAO returns User interface objects rather
than User data objects.

This then allows me to create a MockUser simply by implementing the
User interface. For projects where I don't have entity interfaces, I subclass the User DataObject instead. This isn't quite as clean or
workable, but it does help so long as you override every method.

For creating Mock objects, I use the cayenne code generator the same
way I use it for the DataObjects.

I'm finding that there are still some places where integration testing is necessary to catch problems. In Cayenne 1.1.4, I've had an issue
where I tried to create a local copy of a modified or a transient
object and then commit an object with a relationship to it -- those
kinds of problems can only be detected when using the real database
layer unless your mock layer knows the quirks.



On 9/4/07, Marcin Skladaniec (JIRA) <[email protected]> wrote:
Simplify (junit) testing in cayenne
-----------------------------------

                 Key: CAY-862
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/cayenne/browse/
CAY-862
             Project: Cayenne
          Issue Type: New Feature
          Components: Cayenne Core Library
    Affects Versions: 3.0
         Environment: All
            Reporter: Marcin Skladaniec
            Assignee: Andrus Adamchik


Junit tests are becoming very important once the project reaches a
certain point. Cayenne has dozens of junit tests but writing a
junit test for cayenne based application is not easy at all.

For me the main trouble is when there is no need to fetch or
commit something (like testing GUI or lifecycle events). I tried
to reproduce the tests found in cayenne,but always ended up with
problems with mocking up the context, datachannel,
entityResolver,  altering the configuration to point to different
db etc.

To solve that my idea was that one might specify a package in the
CayenneModeler, this package will than be populated with generated
a set of _MockupXXX extends XXX (like _MockupArtist extends
Artist, _MockupPainting extends Painting etc.) and a
MockupDataContext etc. There could be a second set of
_MockupEntities for ROP client.

Another thing is to specify the testing environment with ease. I
think there should be also a possibility to create a "testing"
DataNode pointing to a different database than deployment, and for
the DataMap could be related to the real or testing DataNode at
the same time. To choose the testing environment a system param
like -Dcayenne.testing=TRUE could be utilised.
I might have missed something here: is there a simply way of
having two DataNodes for one DataMap ?

I think that simplified testcase writing feature would be a great
advantage for Cayenne over any other ORM.

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