I guess it really depends on how critical you view the problem then.  I'm
certainly not advocating a bi-weekly release schedule (I found out
first-hand how much of a pain it is to prepare), but likewise, I don't see
it being problematic to issue a quick fix to a critical problem.  Arguably,
it's something that should have been caught in testing for the 3.0M3
release.

If it's not that critical, then waiting until the next release cycle
shouldn't be a problem.  As for me, I think the 4 - 6 week is a sweetspot.
As is, it takes us 2 - 3 weeks to get a release out the door.  So waiting
upwards of 10 + 3 seems like a really long time to me.  Once again, I have
really high hopes that the CI server and/or Cayenne zone (any update on
this?) will help streamline the process.

-- 
Kevin 


On 2/12/08 12:32 PM, "Andrus Adamchik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree except that posting releases every week will create a huge
> overhead for the the PMC to test it before the vote... There is a
> difference between a release and a nightly build in the expected
> quality, so we can't just let it out without some thorough testing. I
> suggest to start doing releases more often, but not *that* often. We
> can aim for a release every 6-10 weeks?
> 
> Andrus
> 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> 
>> I know I'm stating the obvious, but there's nothing wrong with us
>> pushing
>> out a 3.0M4.  This would have the benefit of working for everyone,
>> rather
>> than just those that happened to see your post.
>> 
>> While not a ton has changed, there were some fairly important bug
>> fixes.  I
>> think CAY-574, for example, could help out a lot of ROP users.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> On 2/12/08 12:05 PM, "Andrus Adamchik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> FYI: I just fixed a nasty Modeler bug below that affected
>>> CayenneModeler 3.0M3. You can get a Mac and Windows versions of the
>>> patched Modeler following this link (consider it an unofficial
>>> nightly
>>> build) :
>>> 
>>>   http://people.apache.org/~aadamchik/nightly/02122008/
>>> 
>>> Andrus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: "Andrus Adamchik (JIRA)" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: February 12, 2008 11:27:33 AM EST
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [JIRA] Created: (CAY-984) Runtime relationships leak into
>>>> CayenneModeler
>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> Runtime relationships leak into CayenneModeler
>>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>>                Key: CAY-984
>>>>                URL: https://issues.apache.org/cayenne/browse/CAY-984
>>>>            Project: Cayenne
>>>>         Issue Type: Bug
>>>>         Components: CayenneModeler GUI
>>>>   Affects Versions: 3.0
>>>>           Reporter: Andrus Adamchik
>>>>           Assignee: Andrus Adamchik
>>>>           Priority: Critical
>>>>            Fix For: 3.0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This affects 3.0 M3 and causes lots of user confusion and potential
>>>> modeling errors.... In *runtime* Cayenne creates missing reverse
>>>> relationships to have a consistent mapping graph internally. This
>>>> should be invisible to the Modeler... however it is not, as when a
>>>> project is loaded, the "defaults" are applied and runtime
>>>> relationships are shown to the user. Luckily they are not saved to
>>>> XML , but the whole things is very confusing.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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