IMO (and seems to be confirmed by the voting guide [1], "Votes on Package Releases") what is important here is not a single -1 (a release is a majority vote, and can not be vetoed), but a consensus, formal or informal, to suspend the release vote to address a serious technical issue. So delaying the release, unlike publishing it, is more about a consensus than formality (unless it becomes contentious, which I hope it doesn't), as the former has no ASF and contributor related legal consequences, while the later does.

Andrus

[1] http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html


On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:30 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:

Mike can weigh in a bit more on procedure.  I think what should really
happen is someone cast a -1 to veto and then we retry the process.

--
Kevin



On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Tore, I committed a fix (essentially undoing ~60% of CAY-1138) to both trunk and M5 tag. Could you please try it out before we create the new artifacts?

As a formality, I'd like to suspend the vote until this is resolved, and then start a new vote on new artifacts, as this issue is very serious, and
we definitely can't release it like that.


Andrus

P.S. Going to push another trunk snapshot with this fix

P.P.S. Our tags have an extra "cayenne" subfolder that make them unmergeable
with trunk via git... For M6 we should get rid of that subfolder.




On Dec 7, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

Couldn't reproduce it with Tore's mapping, but now I started seeing a similar behavior in my own production code... Since I can run that in
debugger, I hope to nail it down now.

Andrus


On Dec 5, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Tore Halset wrote:

On Dec 5, 2008, at 15:03 , Andrus Adamchik wrote:

Hmm... actually looking closer at the stack, this has nothing to do with initialization of descriptors. This is some circular object faulting. Still
a DataMap would help.

Okay and thanks for looking into it. I have sent the mapping to you
outside of the list.

- Tore.








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