On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:10 AM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:

>> 
>> Going forward, do we still care to support old 32 bit Macs and their Java 
>> 1.5 install?
> 
> Well, it has historically been me pushing for support for older machines. But 
> in 2012 I am finding little resistance forcing customers onto 64bit as a 
> minimum OSX requirement, so Java 5 is effectively gone amongst those 
> customers. This is in the education industry in Australia... results may 
> differ for other countries and industries.

Glad to hear it. We haven't heard from any other Cayenne users saying they 
still need 32 bit support. I have one 32 bit laptop in QA in our company that 
is all but falling apart. 

> I'm -0 on this, since 3.2 is probably a year away. That is, I don't see the 
> point in excluding any users without substantial benefit, but if it makes the 
> lives of Andrus or other developers easier, then go for it. On principle, I 
> dislike the forced obsolescence from companies (particularly Apple)... it is 
> 5 years old therefore only useful for landfill. But we do need to move 
> forward at some point and the main material gain (I think) will be the 
> cleanup of the JDBC4 implementation....

Yes, the benefit is reducing the support footprint. 1.5 was EOL'd in 2008, 1.6 
is going to be EOL'd this year. We need to clear our path going forward. I'd 
rather do it 1 Java version at a time :)

Anyways, I'd let it sit around for some time and get back to it in another X 
months, in case someone comes forward with strong objections by then.

Andrus

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