So then queries on the same table would be queued because you don't want to 
return a mix of fresh and non-fresh data to the user in the same response. Is 
that the problem you want to solve with object-level atomicity, and just 
swapping out the Object[]?

With the queue approach, are you thinking that the queue is a list of every 
object which has been fetched from the database and Cayenne has already 
determined that the ObjectStore is out date and needs updating? Or just a list 
of every object fetched from the database, with checking for freshness 
something that happens as objects are taken from the queue for processing?

I'm still getting my head around your ideas, but there appear to be two 
different things here:

1. Swappping out the dataObject atomically to eliminate the lock on the 
ObjectStore. This avoids the lock held during the time it takes to update the 
values in the objectMap. For example, here: synchronized ObjectDiff 
registerDiff(Object nodeId, NodeDiff diff) {}. The code would then look like:

newObject = dataObject.clone();
DataRowUtils.forceMergeWithSnapshot(context, descriptor, newObject, snapshot);
dataObject = newObject;

Or something vaguely like that.


2. Creating a queue to allow a pool of workers to convert raw DataRows into 
object properties, decide which records in the ObjectStore need updating, 
create NodeDiff objects with those changes, etc.


Sorry if I'm being daft. I waited a bit to see if other people would ask some 
questions to help get my head around it. But no one took a bite, so I'm having 
a go.

I'm not seeing how the two ideas relate to each other. They both seem helpful, 
but they seem to solve different bottlenecks. What chaos would (1) cause?


Ari



On 4/11/2013 6:53pm, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> I am actually considering a read-only case here. So no modifications.
> 
> If the objects need to be modified, they have to be transferred to a peer 
> ObjectContext using 'localObject'. Which sorta makes sense even now - 
> contexts with local cache are often shared and hence de-facto have to be 
> read-only, and contexts that track modifications are user- or request- or 
> method- scoped.
> 
> A.
> 
> On Nov 4, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Aristedes Maniatis <a...@maniatis.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 26/10/2013 3:09am, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 2. Queue based approach… Place each query result merge operation in an 
>>> operation queue for a given DataContext. Polling end of the queue will 
>>> categorize the operations by "affinity", and assign each op to a worker 
>>> thread, selected from a thread pool based on the above "affinity". Ops that 
>>> may potentially update the same objects are assigned to the same worker and 
>>> are processed serially. Ops that have no chance of creating conflict 
>>> between each other are assigned to separate workers and are processed in 
>>> parallel. 
>>
>> This queue needs to keep both SELECT and modify operations in some sort of 
>> order? So let's imagine you get a queue like this:
>>
>> 1. select table A
>> 2. select table B
>> 3. select table A
>> 4. modify table B
>> 5. select table B
>> 6. select table A
>>
>> Is the idea here that you would dispatch 1,2,3,6 to three worker threads to 
>> be executed in parallel. But then 4 would be queued behind 2. And 5 would 
>> also wait until 4 was complete.
>>
>> Is that the idea?
>>
>>
>> I can see some situations where this would result in worse behaviour than we 
>> have now. If operation 1 and 3 were the same query, then today we get to 
>> take advantage of a query cache.
>>
>>
>> Am I getting the general idea right?
>>
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>>
>>
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