I think this was the understanding all along. Next we might try to aim for a 
smaller scope 4.1 release, and a more ambitious 5.0.

I like how we managed to control the scope in the last ~9 months, pushing out 
anything that did not advance the main 4.0 "story" (the story being DB-first 
flow, and advanced object queries). Hoping we can preserve the same discipline 
with 4.1. While 5.0 may be reserved for experimentation with a number of 
untried ideas.

Andrus


> On Jun 3, 2017, at 1:51 AM, Aristedes Maniatis <a...@maniatis.org> wrote:
> 
> As long as we realise that what a beta really represents is a freeze on the 
> API and features. So after this point we really don't have a chance to change 
> things until we get to 5.0.
> 
> Ari
> 
> 
> On 2/6/17 10:28pm, Nikita Timofeev wrote:
>> I think that having build ready will lead to more feedback :)
>> So I'm going to start release process right now, and the next step
>> will be voting!
>> 
>> Everyone will have enough time to evaluate everything while voting is
>> in progress
>> (and we can prolong voting as BETA is really important step forward).
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 6:09 AM, Aristedes Maniatis <a...@maniatis.org> wrote:
>>> I think the main thing to ensure is that we are all happy with all the new 
>>> API and method signatures added. Everything else can be fixed during the 
>>> beta, but we want to make sure this is locked down.
>>> 
>>> This has been a long time coming, but it is very exciting!
>>> 
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/6/17 9:03pm, Michael Gentry wrote:
>>>> Wow, that seems quick!  I'll carve out some weekend review time.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> mrg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Nikita Timofeev 
>>>> <ntimof...@objectstyle.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As all features scheduled for BETA are done, I'm going to start
>>>>> release procedure on this Friday.
>>>>> If someone have any issues with latest version or any other concerns
>>>>> about release you are welcome to tell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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