> Gave the updated CM a quick tour and it looks good so far. I'll do a bit
> more testing later.

Thanks Mike!

> When you talked about Java 21 on User, you weren't kidding. I had Java 25
> and it will not build with it. Had to re-install 21 to try it.

This is due to Gradle. My next suggestion was to discontinue Gradle plugin 
support. Probably need to post this on user@.

> Seems the model files upgrade is still done on the filesystem instead of in
> memory, so you have to revert 4.x model files (hopefully you have them in
> Git/etc) after loading into 5.x CM. Is there a reason the upgrades aren't
> done in-memory so you don't mangle the original version?

Yes - a technical difficulty of keeping track of what needs to happen on save 
later (like deleting some leftover files, etc.). This is not insurmountable, 
but version-control based rollback option looked sufficient, so we never 
bothered to address it (this behavior existed across all versions IIRC).

Andrus


> On May 13, 2026, at 10:46 AM, Michael Gentry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrus,
> 
> Gave the updated CM a quick tour and it looks good so far. I'll do a bit
> more testing later.
> 
> Two notes:
> 
> When you talked about Java 21 on User, you weren't kidding. I had Java 25
> and it will not build with it. Had to re-install 21 to try it.
> 
> Seems the model files upgrade is still done on the filesystem instead of in
> memory, so you have to revert 4.x model files (hopefully you have them in
> Git/etc) after loading into 5.x CM. Is there a reason the upgrades aren't
> done in-memory so you don't mangle the original version?
> 
> Thanks,
> mrg
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 10:24 AM Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> So I feel like the advent of agentic coding opens up new possibilities for
>> CayenneModeler. While some want you to think you can simply prompt Claude
>> to "Rewrite CayenneModeler in JavaFX" (or Electron or JetBrains Compose
>> Multiplatform), still with our limited resources, building and supporting
>> an entirely new thing is realistically out of reach.
>> 
>> But I think we can take the current Swing app to a new level by augmenting
>> our rusty Swing skills with AI. A few of my experiments adding this or that
>> UI piece were mostly successful. A few idea on top of my mind:
>> 
>> 1. A built-in MCP server for DB Import and CGen. This is to close the loop
>> on agentic coding, allowing to use both of these tools from an agent CLI.
>> (The MCP idea was what prompted me to look into this to begin with)
>> 2. Fix table editors UX (selections conflicting with cell editors)
>> 3. Write unit tests
>> 4. Modernizing L&F. Not sure how far we can get while staying in Swing,
>> but worth a try. Looking at FlatLaf lib, which is a successor of JGoodies
>> that we already use
>> 5. Implement dozens of small usability features (such as showing currently
>> selected Obj|DbEntity in tab view headers, etc.)
>> 
>> My first pass (about 70% done) was not anything visual, but rather
>> refactoring the existing messy code to rid it of various architectural
>> experiments accumulated over the years (such as auto-bindings) and unifying
>> the MVC structure to be as close as possible to vanilla Swing. Ironically,
>> Claude was not that helpful in this process. It was good old IDE
>> refactoring, manually going through hundreds of files chasing dead code and
>> inconsistencies.
>> 
>> Anyways, just putting this on the radar.
>> 
>> Andrus

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