We need one more vote. But otherwise we should be closing the vote. It's 
already been 9 days.


> On Jun 13, 2026, at 12:01 PM, Michael Gentry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Then again, I think I'm confusing it with the assemblies distribution. I'll
> send out the vote email now.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2026 at 11:59 AM Michael Gentry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> That worked better, but doesn't look anything clean like what Nikita has
>> done before.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2026 at 10:39 AM Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah, sorry...  mvn deploy requires -Pgpg to generate signatures
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 13, 2026, at 10:37 AM, Michael Gentry <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I got a 1063 created:
>>>> 
>>>> https://repository.apache.org/#stagingRepositories
>>>> 
>>>> Tried to access:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecayenne-1063/
>>>> 
>>>> And it says it exists, but is restricted. So I tried to close it and got
>>>> signature validation errors.
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 6:02 PM Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is weird. orgapachecayenne-1062 is not there indeed. I wonder if
>>>>> un-closed repos are auto-deleted after some timeout? Let's try to
>>>>> republish. I think this should work:
>>>>> 
>>>>> git switch -c cayenne-parent-5.0-M2 cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
>>>>> mvn deploy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrus
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2026, at 3:33 PM, Michael Gentry <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That repo is empty to me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 1:29 AM Nikita Timofeev <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Check that it is closed in the Nexus:
>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/#stagingRepositories.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 4:42 AM Michael Gentry <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks Nikita!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to put together the release vote email and think I have
>>> an
>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>> with the Maven repo:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecayenne-1062/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anyone know what step I missed there, etc? I got the name
>>>>>>>> (orgapachecayenne-1062) from
>>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/#stagingRepositories which I think
>>> came
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the "mvn release:prepare" or "mvn release:perform" step.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> mrg
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 4:12 PM Nikita Timofeev <
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perfect! Windows build is there now too.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 11:40 PM Michael Gentry <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ~/Projects/cayenne-svn/5.0-M2 > svn commit --username mgentry -m
>>>>>>> "Added
>>>>>>>>>> 5.0-M2 SRC files."
>>>>>>>>>> Adding  (bin)  cayenne-5.0-M2-src.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>> Adding         cayenne-5.0-M2-src.tar.gz.asc
>>>>>>>>>> Adding         cayenne-5.0-M2-src.tar.gz.sha512
>>>>>>>>>> Transmitting file data ...done
>>>>>>>>>> Committing transaction...
>>>>>>>>>> Committed revision 85180.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Added.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 3:20 PM Nikita Timofeev <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Could you also commit the `src` package there? I think it's
>>> better
>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>>>>> build using it.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 11:12 PM Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what I thought, but wanted to check first.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~/Projects/cayenne-svn > svn commit --username mgentry -m "Added
>>>>>>>>>> 5.0-M2
>>>>>>>>>>>> Generic and Mac artifacts, plus updated KEYS."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Authentication realm: <https://dist.apache.org:443> ASF
>>>>>>> Committers
>>>>>>>>>>>> Password for 'mgentry': ***************
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding         5.0-M2
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding  (bin)  5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2-macosx.dmg
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding         5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2-macosx.dmg.asc
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding         5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2-macosx.dmg.sha512
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding  (bin)  5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding         5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2.tar.gz.asc
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding         5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2.tar.gz.sha512
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding         KEYS
>>>>>>>>>>>> Transmitting file data .......done
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committing transaction...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Committed revision 85177.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Should be signed and committed now.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita, please help with Windows. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 2:28 PM Andrus Adamchik <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, it is supposed to be empty, as the last voted release
>>>>>>> moves
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /release for publishing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> svn mv https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cayenne/X.X \
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/cayenne/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2026, at 2:21 PM, Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'm a little confused by the SVN steps. Am I supposed to
>>>>>>>>>> checkout
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cayenne/ and commit
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> artifacts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? I did that and nothing is currently there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 1:13 PM Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I'm officially giving up on Windows for now. Tried
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never got a clean build on it. I'm switching back to Mac and
>>>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>> builds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. Hopefully that will be done within a few hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 7:57 AM Andrus Adamchik <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Mike, so what do you think of Nikita's idea of
>>>>>>> publishing
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sans Windows, and he'd do the Windows piece?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2026, at 8:06 AM, Nikita Timofeev <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the Gradle build I can only think that the Gradle
>>>>>>> folder
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the source folder. That's the limitation of the
>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>> process,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to remember to copy it every time you grab a clean
>>>>>>>>> sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, I could try to do Win build on my side. If
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> commit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources package with the signatures to the SVN, I can
>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembly on my machine and commit it back with my
>>>>>>>> signatures.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be ok to have different signatures in one release
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are in the KEYS file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2026 at 9:24 PM Andrus Adamchik <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting... I haven't tried an "src" build. But what I
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>> worked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me on an Azure VM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. cmd instead of PowerShell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. git clone [repo] with no extra args like --depth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mvn clean verify -P assembly,windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the differences with your recipe are cosmetic though
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affect Gradle. So not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2026, at 12:48 PM, Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, installed Win10 in VB (a soul-crushing experience)
>>>>>>>> along
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Git, Maven, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was able to clone the repo (using PowerShell):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS > git clone
>>>>>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/cayenne.git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "cayenne-parent-5.0-M2" --depth 1 cayenne-m2-rel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This repeatedly fails, though:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS > mvn clean install -P"assembly,src"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Task :pluginUnderTestMetadata
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Task :processTestResources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Task :testClasses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Task :test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Sharing is only
>>>>>>>> supported
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classes because bootstrap classpath has been appended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Task :test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DbImportIT > simpleDbTaskSuccess() FAILED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.junit.platform.commons.JUnitException at
>>>>>>>>>>> ArrayList.java:1596
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Caused by: java.io.IOException at
>>>>>>> ForEachOps.java:184
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DbImportIT > withProjectTaskSuccess() FAILED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.junit.platform.commons.JUnitException at
>>>>>>>>>>> ArrayList.java:1596
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Caused by: java.io.IOException at
>>>>>>> ForEachOps.java:184
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DbImportIT > excludeRelDbTaskSuccess() FAILED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.junit.platform.commons.JUnitException at
>>>>>>>>>>> ArrayList.java:1596
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Caused by: java.io.IOException at
>>>>>>> ForEachOps.java:184
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GradlePluginIT > gradleVersionsCompatibility() FAILED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.junit.platform.commons.JUnitException at
>>>>>>>>>>> ArrayList.java:1596
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Caused by: java.io.IOException at
>>>>>>> ForEachOps.java:184
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36 tests completed, 4 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Task :test FAILED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas what might cause the build to fail in the
>>>>>>> Gradle
>>>>>>>>>>> Plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JDK 21 and latest Maven 3.9.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2026 at 8:46 PM Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found an old Win10 ISO. I'll try installing in
>>>>>>>>> VirtualBox,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2026 at 11:14 AM Andrus Adamchik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I think this one actually requires Windows. In
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally via VirtualBox. These days, I simply go to
>>>>>>> Azure
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> spin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a few hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2026, at 5:14 PM, Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this step?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # You will need to do this on Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn clean package -Passembly,windows -DskipTests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've only got Mac and Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2026 at 4:37 PM Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, more updates...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my ~/.m2/settings.xml file, I changed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <id>apache.releases.https</id>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <id>apache-releases</id>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That allowed the mvn release:perform step to run and
>>>>>>>>>>>> complete. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten apache.releases.https from one of the Apache
>>>>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up GPG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and my settings file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Starting the rest now...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2026 at 9:20 PM Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I switched to using the ASF Git and made it
>>>>>>> further,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publishing the artifacts (public key) using mvn
>>>>>>>>>>>> release:perform
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to get that ironed out Thursday...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2026 at 8:16 AM Nikita Timofeev <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can check if your GitHub ID is linked with
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org self service. Other
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas about what to check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If your access continues to fail, I can proceed
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2026 at 10:11 PM Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still getting errors about not having access
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache/cayenne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub. Should I try using the ASF Git repo? Or
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over until I can resolve my environmental issues?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 9:09 PM Michael Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tips, Nikita.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to revert the changes and try again.
>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 8:20 AM Nikita Timofeev <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The instructions should be good overall, I use
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> verbatim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's definitely missing are the common
>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually I go with `mvn release:rollback` first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If `rollback` can't run (likely because there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptor), I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually revert the commit performed by the
>>>>>>>>> `prepare`
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then check if the tags are still present and
>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once everything is reverted I start
>>>>>>>>> `release:prepare`
>>>>>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If `release:perform` fails too, I try to repeat
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> first,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a nexus timeout or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the error persists I just repeat the same
>>>>>>>>> rollback
>>>>>>>>>>> ->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Tell me if you need some more
>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 12:02 AM Michael Gentry
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, still broken for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 2:40 PM Andrus
>>>>>>> Adamchik
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This worked for me, so I deleted the tag:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git push origin :cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - [deleted]             cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe it will work now for you, that the old
>>>>>>>> tag
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> gone?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2026, at 2:31 PM, Michael Gentry
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This command failed on me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn release:prepare
>>>>>>> -DpreparationGoals="clean
>>>>>>>>>>> install"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DautoVersionSubmodules=true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked past the error and ran the command
>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't create the tag because the tag
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>> exists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somehow it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tag. So, I tried deleting the tag, but
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mrg@odin 14:15:58] ~/Projects/cayenne
>>>>>>>> master>
>>>>>>>>>> git
>>>>>>>>>>>> push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> origin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Permission to apache/cayenne.git
>>>>>>> denied
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> mrg.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same error when I use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git push --delete origin
>>>>>>> cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions? Or does someone else have a
>>>>>>>>>>> smoother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> path to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS. The tag got created when I had used
>>>>>>> HTTPS
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't delete the tag that way, either
>>>>>>>> (GitHub
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user/pass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credentials), so I deleted the repo and
>>>>>>>> checked
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSH,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I get the permissions error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 1:29 PM Michael
>>>>>>>> Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrus, I'm working on it. Trying to
>>>>>>>> resolve
>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release guide is a little bit out of date.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 9:20 AM Andrus
>>>>>>>>> Adamchik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Mike, wanted to check how things are
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eager
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start using M2 and committing more cleanup
>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't have time for it now, not a
>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita and myself should be able to jump
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 8:06 PM, Michael
>>>>>>>> Gentry <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to start it Tuesday
>>>>>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2026 at 5:47 PM Andrus
>>>>>>>>>> Adamchik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think at this point we are ready to
>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>> M2.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a complete new agentic coding stack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, do you still have time to prepare
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> release?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2026, at 11:00 AM, Michael
>>>>>>>>> Gentry
>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nikita,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think there is an urgency to
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> M2
>>>>>>>>>>> out,
>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outstanding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PRs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sense to include in M2, I think it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 8:18 AM Nikita
>>>>>>>>>>> Timofeev <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Several PRs are waiting for me, but
>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> critical,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahead with M3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions are all good, I use them
>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 2:37 AM Andrus
>>>>>>>>>>> Adamchik
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just filed all my taxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congrats! Which reminds me - I am
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accountants :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I have some free cycles now if
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything I can do to help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about publishing the release.
>>>>>>>>> @Nikita -
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> queue we'd need to deal with before
>>>>>>> M2
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M3?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything missing in the release
>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cayenne.apache.org/dev/release-guide.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2026, at 6:16 PM, Michael
>>>>>>>>>> Gentry
>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just filed all my taxes, so I have
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything I can do to help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 5:08 PM
>>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adamchik
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not too many significant new
>>>>>>> features
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> M2
>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes. So yeah, we probably should
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2026, at 4:45 PM,
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>> Gentry
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it time for a 5.0.M2?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the M1 was released
>>>>>>>>> 2024-09-09
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

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