Hi All,

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 1:26 PM Christofer Dutz
<christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
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> Hi Pepjin,
>
>
>
> a separate thread is definitely not required. I personally consider it a nice 
> practice.
>
> In most votes we do in PLC4X the DISCUSS thread that’s always started in 
> parallel to the VOTE thread is usually empty.
>
> I was just providing some suggestions … I guess the main problem with the 
> thread I was referring to, was that without the RC1 and RC2 subjects it was 
> getting hard to count votes.

I understand and it is good to get feedback on this.

I think we should do the next release with RC1, RC2, etc subjects.
And if needed we can also add an ad-hoc DISCUSS thread.

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> Chris
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> Von: Pepijn Noltes <pepijnnol...@gmail.com>
> Datum: Dienstag, 16. Januar 2024 um 13:23
> An: dev@celix.apache.org <dev@celix.apache.org>
> Cc: Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: Personal feedback to your last release vote
>
> Hi All,
>
> @Chris Thanks for the feedback.
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 4:17 AM Peng Zheng <pengzh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Chris.
> >
> > Thanks for providing feedback.
> >
> > On 2024/1/15 01:10, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > while going through the projects activity over the last quarter in 
> > > preparation of this month's board meeting. I came to notice that it was 
> > > quite tricky to follow the votes on your last release. Not only was there 
> > > a lot of discussion in the vote thread, also was the same thread used for 
> > > multiple RCs same with the result thread.
> >
> > IIRC, we have cast two rounds of voting: one on 2023/9/20 and the other
> > on 2023/9/28.
> >
> > Though they display correctly as two separate threads, they appear as a
> > single thread on Pony.
> > I guess this caused most of the difficulty following our discussion, right?
> >
> > > I think it would make things a bit cleaner and clearer for outsiders to 
> > > follow if every RC had it's own vote and result thread (just add 
> > > something like "RC1" and "RC2" to the subject and to move Discussions to 
> > > a paralell "[DISCUSS] Release Apache Celix 1.2.3 RC1" ... this way it's 
> > > super easy to follow and to tally the results.
> >
> > Yes, adding "RC1" and "RC2" to the title should prevent Pony from mixing
> > two separate threads into one, which should solve the main issue here.
> > If we will have an extensive pre-release discussion, a separate
> > discussion thread will definitely help.
> > On the other hand, IMO some brief inline discussions should not harm the
> > overall readability.
>
> I agree that adding a RC1, RC2, etc to the voting subject is useful.
>
> Concerning a discussion thread I have some concerns:
>
> - If we do not want discussion on the voting thread, I think a
> separate release discussion thread always needs to be created when
> creating a release vote.
>   Otherwise I expect it is hard to control where discussions replies will 
> occur.
> - I am not sure if a seperate discussion thread will make the overall
> process more clear. Especially when looking back to an earlier vote.
>   Because if there is a separate discussion thread, I expect every +0
> or -1 vote will refer to discussion thread for more info, possible
> making
>   the vote arguments more difficult to follow.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > Please treat this as feedback from a fellow Apache person and not as 
> > > official Board feedback.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > PS: Please keep me in the loop and make sure I'm on CC, as I'm not 
> > > subscribed to this list.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peng Zheng
>
> Pepijn

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