hi Reto,

Il giorno gio 7 apr 2016 alle ore 20:52 Reto Gmür <[email protected]> ha
scritto:

> Hi all,
>
> It's spring cleaning time in the northern hemisphere! I propose a
> radical cleaning of Clerezza.
>
> I think the project source has a size that poses the following problems:
>
> - It's hard to manage
> - It's too much for potential new contributors to easily get into the
> project
> - Votes are hard as most PMC member are only familiar with a portion of
> the codebase
> - Unclear boundaries with the Stanbol project (Clerezza Authentication
> relies on Stanbol with in turn uses Clerezza)
>

I agree.


>
> My proposal drop* everything but a core consisting of the following:
>
> - Everything in clerezza-rdf-core (API, utils, SPARQL backend)
> - rdf.core
> - rdf.ontologies and maven plugin to generate them
> - rdf .utils and rdf.utils.scala
> - rdf simple storage (mainly for tests)
>
> All this components should work well with and without OSGi.
>
> That's it no launchers, no shell, no platform, no permission, no email,
> no adapters to storage backends (apart from the SPARQL one), no uima, no
> parsers and no serializers (but with the parsing interface), no CRIS.
>
> The rationale is, that we all know the above core modules so we can have
> competent discussions about changes there. Also, I think its good to be
> conservative on changes to the APIs at the very core (and it doesn't
> harm to be a bit slow).


+1 on all the above, with a note on what "drop" means, see below.


> For the other components I think many of them
> would be better off if managed outside apache by their respective core
> developers.
>

I disagree here, I think it's important to keep the stuff into Apache, and
maybe whenever it's time to release any of this additional components a
competent developer can take this up.


>
> Personally I like coding with the Clerezza API and use it in many of my
> projects, what I don't like is if I encounter a tiny issue in some
> marginal module I developed: if I fix it in the Clerezza code base I
> have to rely on a SNAPSHOT version (which I usually don't want) or make
> a release, now calling for a vote for some minor fixes in a module
> that's rather unimportant (except of course, for the project I'm working
> on) seems like an overkill and an unnecessary waiting time, I often end
> up working around the issue or duplicating code in my project.
>

I partially agree: a minor fix is still a fix and if it's important for
your project it may be for others using that. I don't think 3 days of
waiting can be problematic from a timing point of view, what could be
problematic is lack of votes from PMC members, which I think is rightfully
what you're trying to address here.


>
> * By drop I mean to end maintaining as part of Apache Clerezza and
> removing it from our repository, this is the part to decide on this
> list. I'm personally interested in keeping alive significant portions of
> that code and I hope that others might too.
>

I would opt to move non-core stuff to an addons branch, like many other
projects do. Removing would be bad as if someone wants to pick anything
from there and e.g. revamp it, that would require a lot of steps to be able
to release it.

My 2 cents,
Tommaso


>
> What do you think?
>
> Cheers,
> Reto
>

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