Hi Stephane and welcome,
On 5/11/2010 19:53, Stéphane NICOLAS wrote: > Hello All, > > my name is Stephane. I've been a java programmer for 12 years now. I never > liked web programming as > I found web frameworks mostly bloated and encumbered by html-stateless/server > stuff (I tested > tapestry and struts). So I just stopped learning web programming 5 years ago > and thought I would let > things evolve and come back to the web when programming would be easier, One of the great things that happened is Firefox and Firebug. For me those two tools had a massive impact on the way I do web programming. Together with the JS libraries (jQuery, Prototype, MooTools etc) it propelled web programming so far forward that today I'd rather do web programming than Flex, Swing or pretty much any stateful GUI toolkit. Off course IE6-7 is still there to spoil the party and ensure we work hard for our money :). The stateless nature of HTTP also guarantees loose coupling, and makes systems conceptually quite easy to understand. On the flip side the statelessness also makes it very hard (impossible?) to write very sophisticated (desktop like) UIs. I am wondering though if HTML5 and modern JS engines are going to change all that. Time will tell. Kind regards Bob more object oriented, more > intellectually attractive indeed. I mostly considered web programming as a > step backward in UI > programming, mainly due to technologies that were never intended to do what > we now want them to do... > > And last 3 weeks I spent quite a lot of time testing the Apache click > framework. I discovered that > people from Apache click addressed mostly all my concerns and > found that Apache click is a wonderful component oriented web framework. In > the last 3 weeks I could > learn click and build a pretty complicated application (people, activities, > participation, > management application). > > So I just write my first email to this mailing list to say you how I love > your work, > I appreciate tremendously your efforts. It did change the way I understand > web programming and I > know love that. > (and also love JPA, almost for the same reasons, but that's another topic). > > So thank you all for your great great work. Click is just smashing. > > I hope to provide you with more feed back on a couple of stuff during the > next weeks or so. > Can I suggest new components or feature enhancements here ? > > Stéphane
