Members present: Animesh, sudhap, vogxn, Chandan, sangeetha, chipc, ke4qqq, jzb
---------------- Meeting summary: ---------------- 1. Preface 2. Active Feature Release: Overall Status a. http://markmail.org/message/3sh4ftyedjcmycyn (chipc, 2) b. http://markmail.org/message/ibxqqxddzqbxv4bx (chipc, 2) 3. Active Feature Release: Feature Status 4. Active Feature Release: QA 5. Active Feature Release: Doc Status 6. Active Feature Release: Additional Issues? 7. Active Bug-Fix Release 8. Master Branch 9. Infra 10. Others? a. sudhap to start discussion about developer priorities on ML (jzb, 10) -------- Actions: -------- - sudhap to start discussion about developer priorities on ML (jzb, 17:55:56) IRC log follows: # 1. Preface # 17:05:43 [jzb]: Reminder that the agenda is here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/IRC+Meetings+%28Logs+and+Minutes%29 # 2. Active Feature Release: Overall Status # 17:06:07 [jzb]: anyone want to report on the overall status of 4.1.0? 17:06:13 [chipc]: sure 17:06:36 [chipc]: so, by my count, and in my last email, we have 1 blocker and 6 critical bugs that need to be resolved before I'll cut the RC 17:06:43 [chipc]: #info http://markmail.org/message/3sh4ftyedjcmycyn 17:06:58 [chipc]: the blocker looks like it will probably be an easy fix for Min, but we'll have to wait to hear back 17:07:21 [chipc]: the critical ones, a chunk are assigned to Kelven... who has noted that they are fixed pending merge 17:07:36 [chipc]: I'm just not sure if they were fixed in the big merge I did this morning for him 17:07:58 [chipc]: Mural's bug (1673) has a fix pending, but also requires one of Kelven's bugs to be fixed 17:08:13 [chipc]: and there's one for Kishan (1819) that needs to also be addressed 17:08:28 [chipc]: sudhap also mentioned that we were blocked on upgrade testing 17:08:36 [chipc]: so that's a pre-req as well 17:08:43 [chipc]: and that's that... questions? 17:08:51 [vogxn]: Kishan's away at a conference and will be back hopefully tomorrow. So if it can be taken care of by someone PST great. if not i'll talk to kishan 17:08:58 [ke4qqq]: whats the upgrade problem? 17:09:13 [chipc]: ke4qqq: testing was blocked, something related to the Spring AOP stuff 17:09:23 [chipc]: ACTION goes to find sudhap's email 17:09:43 [Animesh]: I will ask Prachi to look at Kishan's defect 1819 17:09:51 [vogxn]: Animesh: thx 17:09:51 [chipc]: #info http://markmail.org/message/ibxqqxddzqbxv4bx 17:09:58 [chipc]: ke4qqq: ^^ 17:10:07 [chipc]: Animesh: thx 17:10:37 [jzb]: anything else on the 4.1.0 overall status? 17:11:13 [chipc]: not from me 17:11:21 [jzb]: OK, let's move to the next topic 17:11:21 [chipc]: I'd like to get to the place where I can cut the RC obviously 17:11:22 [chipc]: ;-) # 3. Active Feature Release: Feature Status # 17:11:53 [jzb]: do we have anything to report on feature status? 17:12:07 [ke4qqq]: isn't 4.1 the active feature release? 17:12:23 [chipc]: jzb: that agenda item doesn't apply after feature freeze ;-) 17:12:36 [jzb]: fair enough 17:12:43 [jzb]: chipc: though, perhaps bare metal might apply here 17:12:43 [chipc]: however, I guess, just to be compelte... we did pull baremetal 17:12:51 [jzb]: if there were anything needed to discuss 17:12:51 [chipc]: that! 17:12:51 [jzb]: :-) 17:13:07 [chipc]: it's disabled now, and I *hope* the last bugs introduced by disabling it are now resolved 17:13:28 [jzb]: OK, next up... # 4. Active Feature Release: QA # 17:14:21 [jzb]: anyone have anything to report on QA? 17:14:59 [ke4qqq]: vogxn: can you provide an update? 17:15:00 [sangeetha]: Upgrade still has issues .. 17:15:21 [chipc]: sangeetha: ack - and do we have blocker / critical bugs to track? 17:15:22 [sangeetha]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1694 - Tracked in this issue 17:16:21 [chipc]: sangeetha: thanks... looks like it was reopened today 17:16:21 [sangeetha]: We have few other critical issues relating to Events and AWS currently 17:16:51 [chipc]: sangeetha: was it in the list of bugs I listed here: http://markmail.org/message/3sh4ftyedjcmycyn 17:17:06 [sangeetha]: Yes ..we still need an upgrade path where we update binaries , start the management server and things work 17:17:06 [chipc]: if so, I think I discussed above 17:17:13 [chipc]: indeed 17:17:24 [Chandan]: I will be testing EC2 Rest API feature after verification of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1812 17:17:37 [chipc]: hopefully Pradeep can help get through the upgrade process 17:17:58 [sangeetha]: He just assigned this issue to Marcus 17:18:29 [chipc]: ok, hopefully marcus then ;-) 17:18:44 [ke4qqq]: ACTION wishes marcus was on irc 17:18:54 [jzb]: looks like Marcus replied not too long ago + was on it. 17:19:13 [chipc]: ok, so we can't get much more done in this mtg around it 17:19:36 [jzb]: ok, next topic all? 17:19:37 [ke4qqq]: wfm # 5. Active Feature Release: Doc Status # 17:20:36 [jzb]: we're down to 12 bugs for docs 17:20:51 [jzb]: new searching capabilities is still unassigned 17:20:58 [jzb]: CLOUDSTACK-827 17:21:29 [jzb]: We also have a bug creating Japanese docs 17:21:36 [jzb]: CLOUDSTACK-1796 17:21:58 [jzb]: I'm working on finishing up the install guide + release notes 17:22:06 [jzb]: chipc: what would be your best guess for RC right now? 17:22:08 [jzb]: datewise? 17:22:21 [chipc]: jzb: "any day now" 17:22:36 [jzb]: OK 17:22:51 [chipc]: we're litterally bumping along with a handful of issues... but behind them, more may be found 17:22:53 [chipc]: upgrade is the largest concern ATM 17:23:13 [jzb]: OK, I'll try to get those pushed out by Friday 17:23:21 [chipc]: jzb: so as far as docs go, want me to give a 12 hour warning or something before cutting the RC? 17:23:28 [chipc]: ok 17:23:30 [jzb]: Oh, also 17:23:43 [jzb]: I put up a page on the wiki for people to collaborate on Release Notes 17:23:51 [jzb]: I don't think there's been much activity there. 17:24:06 [jzb]: next release I'd like to start generating release notes early in the cycle. 17:24:14 [jzb]: collaboratively rather than having one person (me) do all the tracking down :-) 17:24:21 [chipc]: jzb: then now might be the right way to start 17:24:28 [jzb]: yeah 17:24:36 [chipc]: s/way/time 17:24:58 [jzb]: that's it from me. Next topic.... # 6. Active Feature Release: Additional Issues? # 17:25:21 [chipc]: none from me 17:25:58 [jzb]: alrighty # 7. Active Bug-Fix Release # 17:26:28 [jzb]: I'm just going to lump in everything there. 17:26:36 [jzb]: So - we have one blocker bug thta seems to be resolved 17:26:52 [jzb]: the reporter has asked for RPMs to test, so I'm going to generate those to day and see if we can get that squared away as fixed. 17:27:21 [jzb]: we still have several major bugs reported against 4.0.2, but once the blocker is fixed I'm going to do an RC for that release and then call for a vote pretty quickly 17:27:36 [jzb]: That's all I've got. 17:27:43 [ke4qqq]: awesome....jzb I have some l10n that I or sebgoa need to sync in for 4.0.2 - can you give us a few hours notice 17:27:44 [jzb]: Anybody else on 4.0.2? 17:27:59 [jzb]: ke4qqq: absolutely 17:28:21 [ke4qqq]: awesome - we'll have the QIG in 5 or 6 languages 17:28:28 [jzb]: groovy 17:28:36 [jzb]: Next topic... # 8. Master Branch # 17:29:01 [jzb]: do we have any master branch issues to discuss this week? 17:30:13 [jzb]: looks like master is going swimmingly, then. 17:30:21 [jzb]: will move on to next topic... 17:30:21 [ke4qqq]: chandan: sangeetha: general feeling on stability of master? 17:32:06 [jzb]: OK # 9. Infra # 17:32:14 [jzb]: any infra topics to discuss this week? 17:32:22 [jzb]: how are we doing with graduation-related changes? 17:32:36 [jzb]: anything to be aware of ? I think everything seemed to go smoothly.) 17:32:51 [ke4qqq]: still a few pesky details to clean up 17:32:53 [ke4qqq]: but nothing major 17:33:38 [jzb]: so, I would note that we're doing a lot of work on the Web site 17:33:46 [Chandan]: ke4qqq: Still good number of bugs on the "VMSnapshot" Feature that I am currently testing on master.. https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=text%20~%20%22VMSnapshot%22 17:33:46 [jzb]: or anyway, discussing doing a lot of work on the Web site 17:34:46 [jzb]: Chandan: thanks - anything else? 17:35:10 [Chandan]: nothing from my end... 17:35:26 [jzb]: OK 17:35:41 [jzb]: anyway, I created a list of things that (I think) are needed on the site: 17:35:43 [jzb]: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Website+Resources+and+Proposals#WebsiteResourcesandProposals-ContentThatLivesontheMainSite 17:35:58 [jzb]: Any feedback or help welcome. I did send to marketing@ but no feedback via that venue. 17:36:35 [jzb]: I'd also note we're discussing the look + feel and anybody that would like to be heard on that discussion would be more than welcome to join marketing@ and contribute. 17:37:03 [jzb]: that's all from me. 17:37:18 [jzb]: and that's almost all the topics # 10. Others? # 17:37:29 [jzb]: anything else that we need to discuss this week, folks? 17:37:49 [jzb]: are we still finding the IRC meetings useful? Participation is a little light lately. 17:38:26 [Animesh]: yes they are certainly useful 17:38:34 [chipc]: I would like more participation, but it's useful 17:38:43 [Chandan]: Oops.. forgot to brinig one more piece of information to your notice 17:38:48 [sangeetha]: I had 1 issue with respect to system Vms to be used in Master build 17:38:56 [sangeetha]: Is it a good time ? 17:39:18 [jzb]: sangeetha: it's now or next week. ;-) 17:39:28 [jzb]: but Chandan first, please. 17:39:41 [Chandan]: its regarding the new system vm template for vmware 17:40:18 [Chandan]: I used this template on my setup and I faced issues with the System VM deployment 17:40:34 [Chandan]: Rebuilding new system vms is a feature in master 17:40:51 [Chandan]: i tested the System VM templates for KVM and XenServer successfully 17:41:11 [Chandan]: I uploaded the execution results on cwiki.. 17:41:33 [Chandan]: But for vmware... i couldnt test and verify the System VM template 17:42:03 [jzb]: Chandan: this is for master, or does this apply to 4.0.x or 4.1.x? 17:42:19 [Chandan]: jzb: It is for master 17:42:28 [jzb]: Chandan: OK, cool. Have you taken that to the mailing list? 17:42:33 [Chandan]: not for 4.0.x or 4.1 17:42:48 [Chandan]: I filed a blocker on ASF Jira 17:43:03 [Chandan]: and did bring it up on mailing list about new system vm templates 17:43:33 [jzb]: Chandan: OK. Sounds like we're well covered, then. Anything else? 17:43:48 [Chandan]: nothing from my end... Sangeetha...go ahead 17:43:49 [ke4qqq]: Chandan: awesome - hopefully being able to generate your own sysvms will make that iteration faster 17:43:56 [jzb]: thx! 17:44:18 [sangeetha]: One issue we see with the system templates are the default route missing for all System Vms 17:45:11 [sangeetha]: and also IPV6 address are not being handed out for user Vms .. 17:45:26 [sangeetha]: Both these are tracked in jira issues .. 17:46:05 [ke4qqq]: IPv6 is supposedly an issue with number of DHCP retries? 17:46:18 [sangeetha]: oh not that one .. 17:46:56 [sangeetha]: This issue is specific to master branch where Vms cannot be deployed in ipv6 networks .. 17:47:11 [sangeetha]: specific to only master branch with the new system templates 17:47:48 [ke4qqq]: interesting 17:48:27 [sangeetha]: Sheng is working to provide a fix for this 17:48:41 [sudhap]: ke4qqq: problem is turn around is not faster to close on these tasks and move to others 17:48:51 [sudhap]: for upgrade as well 17:49:04 [ke4qqq]: what do you see as inhibiting faster turn around? 17:50:18 [sudhap]: prorities probably 17:50:41 [jzb]: sudhap: any suggestions on how to fix that? ;-) 17:51:28 [sudhap]: blockers has to be first priority 17:51:48 [sudhap]: but we see there are several features are being worked on and for developer it is important to check in code 17:52:07 [sudhap]: but fixing is not a priority and also it is a context switch 17:52:26 [ke4qqq]: that's a culture issue - our primary job as a project is to release good open source code 17:52:26 [sudhap]: so they do not attend to blocker and need several reminders 17:52:41 [ke4qqq]: release being the key there. 17:52:56 [jzb]: ke4qqq: +1 17:53:35 [ke4qqq]: perhaps that's worthy of a missive to the list. 17:54:21 [ke4qqq]: Animesh: this is the issue we were talking about offline IMO ^^ 17:54:27 [sudhap]: reiteraton may help as we need to close 41 and team can work on new features once this is closed 17:54:41 [jzb]: indeed. sudhap - something you might want to take forward to the ML? 17:55:04 [sudhap]: jzb: sure 17:55:18 [Animesh]: I have been focused on 4.1 at higher priority and then comes main 17:55:26 [ke4qqq]: ACTION looks forward to sudhas rant. 17:55:51 [ke4qqq]: Animesh: not talking about you individually. (just folks attitude in general) 17:55:56 [jzb]: #action sudhap to start discussion about developer priorities on ML 17:56:27 [jzb]: any other topics? 17:57:48 [jzb]: OK, all 17:58:03 [jzb]: that's it for this week, thanks to everyone who joined + for all your hard work.
