ok, the down side will be that the semantics of the versioning are
confusing when cloudstack 5 comes and the version numbers don't match.
still a +1 from me though.

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Daan Hoogland 
> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> +1 +question
>>
>> Is cloudmonkey 5 backwards compatible in the sense that it can talk to a
>> 4.x ms?
>>
>
> Sorry for the confusion. Yes, in fact it is. It's the same cloudmonkey and
> is aimed to work with Apache CloudStack 4.0.0-incubating and its
> derivatives. If it does not it's a bug.
>
> We're gaming the version number, since cloudmonkey-4.x was already out
> here, it would create confusion if we release cloudmonkey-1.x. Therefore,
> it made sense to just start with 5.0.0 and use semver from this version.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:50 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>> > +1 move forward.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Rohit Yadav <rohityada...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Hi folks,
>> >>
>> >> Looks like the previous thread failed to capture attention on the dev
>> ML.
>> >> I'm going forward with some decisions so as to move fast and as per our
>> >> philosophy to ask for forgiveness later than just waste time on too much
>> >> process polling now.
>> >>
>> >> Here are some proposals;
>> >>
>> >> - The version model would be to move fast, break things, release early
>> and
>> >> release often
>> >> - Start with 5.0 version: Since cloudmonkey 4.x is already out there,
>> I'm
>> >> proposing we start new cloudmonkey releases from 5.0; This is just to
>> make
>> >> sure we don't end up releasing a 1.0 when we already have a 4.x
>> >> - Using semver, we don't deviate from major version "5" until we have
>> >> backward incompatible changes of configuration, paths, DSL etc.
>> >> - We'll use git tags to track (unvoted) releasable or testable
>> candidates.
>> >> This is so we can release fast, release often. We can append a -rc for
>> such
>> >> releases on git and pypi.
>> >> - A tested and voted release could take time and some process; but pypi
>> >> channel may not be necessarily used for only official releases, but all
>> and
>> >> every release, even the test ones.
>> >>
>> >> Suggestions, flames?
>> >>
>> >> Moving forward, as it seems already, I may not be able to contribute on
>> >> weekends.
>> >>
>> >> I may be only able to help with the first release, that too the
>> non-process
>> >> oriented parts, perhaps people who already have some idea about the
>> >> internals of cloudmonkey like Prasanna or Sebastien can help lead the
>> >> component?
>> >>
>> >> Regards.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Based on our previous discussion thread[1], we've moved CloudMonkey
>> out of
>> >>> ACS's repository to its new home [2]. Now,
>> >>> with 6f84e74a68d78705a06fe58f7927f42f61453a16 on master, we no longer
>> have
>> >>> cloudmonkey in tools/cli. CloudMonkey will be within CloudStack
>> project but
>> >>> now as an independent sub-project with its own repository and will
>> have a
>> >>> faster need-basis release cycle.
>> >>>
>> >>> For doing that, please suggest on the release process or how it should
>> >>> work? If the present RM or someone wants to lead the release process?
>> >>> I just want to keep it simple with fast releases whenever we have a
>> >>> releasable candidate and semver[3] versioning. So, we ship things fast
>> and
>> >>> don't worry if it breaks since we'll be shipping fast. We can after a
>> fast
>> >>> lazy consensus/voting and publish via pypi and put the
>> tarballs/zipballs
>> >>> under dists/ on ASF/CloudStack.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards.
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tjlr753xfhpw4uk4
>> >>> [2]
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack-cloudmonkey.git
>> >>> [3] http://semver.org/
>> >>>
>>

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