On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:39 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> After seeing lots of frustrated people with folks I decided to try something 
>> out with markdown.
>> 
>> I used pandoc to convert some docbook files to markdown and I used a 
>> structure for a book based on 'The little mongodb' book.
>> We can generate epub and pdf using latex.
>> 
>> See:
>> 
>> https://github.com/runseb/cloudstack-books
>> 
>> There are two "books" aimed at being step by step recipes. Not long, not 
>> convoluted, single OS, etc…simple step by step.
>> 
>> https://github.com/runseb/cloudstack-books/blob/master/en/clients.markdown
>> https://github.com/runseb/cloudstack-books/blob/master/en/installation.markdown
>> 
>> I am still sanitizing the installation one based on 4.2 .
>> 
>> Comments, flames ?
>> 
>> -Sebastien
>> 
> 
> So you are essentially talking about moving to MD from Docbook - is
> this for all of the docs?

Not really. We need to fix our docs and the question is how best to do that ?
We can keep Docbook but that probably means writing brand new docs, breaking up 
OS in different books and finding a release mechanism so that we can update 
faster than a release.

I merely used markdown because it's easy to take notes in .txt as you are 
testing things.

> 
> Joe and I looked at this briefly at CCC - most of the MD tools seemed
> to use LaTeX or converted to DocBook to publish to PDF or Epub - which
> placed constraints on what DocBook tags were available as well as what
> subset of MD was supported.
> 
> My concerns would be:
> 
> How do we handle reusability?
> How do we handle l10n

We could still use transifex

> 
> I am not necessarily against giving up on either of those, but, if we
> are ditching those, we need to do so explicitly and make sure we have
> consensus around those impacts.
> 

Yes, so how best to drive this discussion forward, this goes with other thread 
about the wiki and the website.

> I know we have issues, esp for newcomers attempting their first
> installation. It's one of the reasons I started working on the
> Runbook/QIG many moons ago. I just don't know if it's better or worse
> for us to also toss our existing tooling in the process of fixing the
> documentation. There is a lot that exists now that we'd have to
> recreate (or throw out and rewrite.) And if we really want to do that,
> do we want to do it now or for 4.3 or $someothertimeframe. 4.2 docs
> are currently what terrify me because of the timeline to release.
> 
> --David

Definitely talking about 4.3

> 
> 
> 
> --David

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